Re building the N Class in Victoria

 
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)

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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)
greasyrhys
As likely as all the SG lines Going BG, Dream on we can
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)
greasyrhys
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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)
greasyrhys
Yeah absolutely.
The Overland is bad enough as it is without adding a taste of unreliable N class and the hatred of Vline for anything on that rotten stinking NSW gauge. The NRs are wasted on the Overland but PN apparently have locos to spare (or perhaps it suits their rostering). An XR, G, 81 or BL would be more than enough.
Adelaide and Albury in the one Vline basket case ................
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)
Yeah absolutely.
The Overland is bad enough as it is without adding a taste of unreliable N class and the hatred of Vline for anything on that rotten stinking NSW gauge. The NRs are wasted on the Overland but PN apparently have locos to spare (or perhaps it suits their rostering). An XR, G, 81 or BL would be more than enough.
Adelaide and Albury in the one Vline basket case ................
YM-Mundrabilla
You now dislike SG?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
A standard gauge N would be perfect for The Overland, if only V/Line were interested in running that service. Maybe by the start of next year (we can dream right?)
Yeah absolutely.
The Overland is bad enough as it is without adding a taste of unreliable N class and the hatred of Vline for anything on that rotten stinking NSW gauge. The NRs are wasted on the Overland but PN apparently have locos to spare (or perhaps it suits their rostering). An XR, G, 81 or BL would be more than enough.
Adelaide and Albury in the one Vline basket case ................
You now dislike SG?
Dangersdan707
Don't you believe it. It's Vline that hates the SG.
It is the BG that I hate and just about everything surrounding it.Sad
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
The most realistic timeframe for V/Line to reach DMU Nirvana and therefore be able to make the N class surplus to their requirements is about 10 years from now, give or take.

The Ns might be useful to BG freight operators if the current Antiques Railshow (B, T, S & X class) locomotives on BG start being taken out of service en masse. Even then, I doubt they'd be candidates for rebuilds - why go to all that expense when you could gauge convert some older SG motive power instead? There's a whole bunch of VLs and BRMs out there that could be converted to BG at a lower expense than an N class rebuild. There's already one VL on BG and the BRMs are close enough to make paperwork a lot less of a headache...
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
The most realistic timeframe for V/Line to reach DMU Nirvana and therefore be able to make the N class surplus to their requirements is about 10 years from now, give or take.

The Ns might be useful to BG freight operators if the current Antiques Railshow (B, T, S & X class) locomotives on BG start being taken out of service en masse. Even then, I doubt they'd be candidates for rebuilds - why go to all that expense when you could gauge convert some older SG motive power instead? There's a whole bunch of VLs and BRMs out there that could be converted to BG at a lower expense than an N class rebuild. There's already one VL on BG and the BRMs are close enough to make paperwork a lot less of a headache...
LancedDendrite
Even then the call for BG power will probably be met.  If Goulburn Valley goes SG soon, that will release more rollingstock for BG work, which essentially would amount to 2-4 daily container services, a steel service and grain.  Id say a pool of maybe 15-20 locos could handle this no problem which you'd pretty well have with the current G, BL and XR classes without any others.  The Gs and BLs could be converted to SG, but im thinking this might be less and less likely.

Of course says nothing for operator imbalance, ie PN has the good stuff whilst QUBE and SSR lash up the roadshows...  The lesser two might want to get some decent fleet.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The locomotive class leader should be preserved. Just like X31, N451 should be preserved. I'd