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    Topic moved from Sydney Suburban by dthead on 18 Nov 2017 19:06
      Ethan1395 Train Controller

    Location: An OSCar H Set
    What stations (if any) need renaming in your opinions?

    In my opinion the following should be renamed:

    • St James -> Hyde Park
    • Green Square -> Alexandria
    • Macdonaldtown -> Eveleigh
    • Macarthur -> Campbelltown South
    • Cockle Creek -> Boolaroo
    • Hawkesbury River -> Brooklyn
    Posted: 17 Nov 2017 22:47

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      Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

    None require renaming.
    Posted: 17 Nov 2017 22:57
      tazzer96 Chief Commissioner

    Hawkesbury river is the only one you have a case for.
    Posted: 17 Nov 2017 23:16
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    If there is no confusion, none.

    Brooklyn - Hawksberry River is probably worthy but there were at least big signs at the station saying Brooklyn
    Posted: 18 Nov 2017 00:13
      ThyRiverina Station Master

    Why do those locations need renaming?
    Posted: 18 Nov 2017 09:41
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    None of the above.
    Posted: 18 Nov 2017 11:30
      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    It should've been called "Wickham Interchange" or "Wickham-Newcastle".

    Hawkesbury River --> Brooklyn

    Macquarie University --> Macquarie Shops OR Macquarie Centre

    High Street --> South Maitland (maybe)

    Wallarrobba --> Brookfield Road

    Macdonaldtown --> West Eveleigh

    Central --> Haymarket
    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 13:57

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      GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

    Location: In a FAM sleeper
    It used to surprise me that the Central stations in Brisbane and Melbourne were not their cities main stations.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 14:25
      Pressman Spirit of the Vine

    Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
    None of the above.
    Valvegear
    Agreed, why on earth would you waste hundreds of thousands of $$$ renaming, new signage, reprinting all timetables, relabeling all control equipment, retraining drivers & crews, maintenance crews and train controllers. Money better spent on realistic improvements.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 14:28
      Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

    None of the above.
    Agreed, why on earth would you waste hundreds of thousands of $$$ renaming, etc
    Pressman

    Because it's the Armchair Operators.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 15:40
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    Southern Cross back to Spencer Street.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 20:56
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    Apropos of this, I have yet to discover what benefits there were in changing Spencer Street to Southern Cross? Does anyone know whether the spin doctors published anything?
    Posted: 09 Apr 2018 08:51
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Following on from the decision about North Melbourne, they are more likely to rename another station to Spencer Street and keep Southern Cross as it is.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2018 14:27
      speedemon08 Mary

    Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
    Following on from the decision about North Melbourne, they are more likely to rename another station to Spencer Street and keep Southern Cross as it is.
    justapassenger
    I think Southern Cross is fundamentally different enough to what it used to be to warrant the name change.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2018 16:55
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    I think Southern Cross is fundamentally different enough to what it used to be to warrant the name change.
    "speedemon08"
    The fact is that it is not fundamentally different. It was and is a railway station - that's what's fundamental about it. Spencer Street Station said, in three words, where it was and what it was. I repeat, what benefit accrued from the name change and its associated expense?
    Posted: 09 Apr 2018 18:40

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      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    I think Southern Cross is fundamentally different enough to what it used to be to warrant the name change.
    The fact is that it is not fundamentally different. It was and is a railway station - that's what's fundamental about it. Spencer Street Station said, in three words, where it was and what it was. I repeat, what benefit accrued from the name change and its associated expense?
    Valvegear
    Absolutely nothing.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2018 20:11
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Times change, areas change, if the station's name in the area is outdated, then it too needs to change.

    For example
    Qld, "Vulture Street", is now "South Bank", which is far more representative of the reason you go to this station.  Most people in Brisbane probably wouldn't know where Vulture Street is, but they all know where South Bank is.

    "Fortitude Valley" replacing "Brunswick Street" is also the same.
    Posted: 10 Apr 2018 13:37
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    Times change, areas change, if the station's name in the area is outdated, then it too needs to change.

    For example
    Qld, "Vulture Street", is now "South Bank", which is far more representative of the reason you go to this station.  Most people in Brisbane probably wouldn't know where Vulture Street is, but they all know where South Bank is.

    "Fortitude Valley" replacing "Brunswick Street" is also the same.
    RTT_Rules
    Difference though is that the station's name still references the location. Southern Cross does absolutely nothing of the sort.
    Posted: 10 Apr 2018 19:49
      billybaxter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
    Nowhere needs renaming. Some could be, maybe. Hawkesbury River serves lots of river communities as well, accessible only by boat, not just Brooklyn, so the current name is good.
    Posted: 11 Apr 2018 16:32
      n459L1150 Train Controller

    Location: at sunbury on a V/line service into melbourne, waiting for thousands of impatient people to get on
    Times change, areas change, if the station's name in the area is outdated, then it too needs to change.

    For example
    Qld, "Vulture Street", is now "South Bank", which is far more representative of the reason you go to this station.  Most people in Brisbane probably wouldn't know where Vulture Street is, but they all know where South Bank is.

    "Fortitude Valley" replacing "Brunswick Street" is also the same.
    Difference though is that the station's name still references the location. Southern Cross does absolutely nothing of the sort.
    railblogger
    I thought they renamed SSS to SCS because there was a (popular) hotel across the road to make it easier for the tourists, but I have to say, if the hotel is now closed, then they should change the name back to Southern Cross.
    Posted: 31 May 2018 14:22
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    thought they renamed SSS to SCS because there was a (popular) hotel across the road to make it easier for the tourists, but I have to say, if the hotel is now closed, then they should change the name back to Southern Cross.
    "n459L1150"
    Eh? They can't change the name back to Southern Cross; that's what it is now.
    Posted: 31 May 2018 16:48
      n459L1150 Train Controller

    Location: at sunbury on a V/line service into melbourne, waiting for thousands of impatient people to get on
    i meant back to spencer street
    Posted: 01 Jun 2018 12:19
      orb Station Staff

    We could always call the new Middle Gorge station Spencer Street - after all it's far closer to Spencer St than Southern Cross Station is to the southern cross...
    Posted: 01 Jun 2018 13:20
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    What stations (if any) need renaming in your opinions?

    In my opinion the following should be renamed:

    • St James -> Hyde Park
    • Green Square -> Alexandria
    • Macdonaldtown -> Eveleigh
    • Macarthur -> Campbelltown South
    • Cockle Creek -> Boolaroo
    • Hawkesbury River -> Brooklyn
    Ethan1395
    A bit of a late reply on this

    - St James is fine, because Hyde Park goes up to Museum, Martin Place and St James are so close that had they been a bit closer the two could have been single named and joined by a tunnel.

    - Green Square is the name if the development/location, the station is also in the middle on the map of three suburban names, so it could be any.

    - Macdonldtown, is lucky they have a station at all, name change is not required as Eveleigh is not well known with very little residential. Between Newtown, Macdonaldtown and Eskinville, one needs to go and Macdonaltown is the likely candidate.  They are all in a 450m x 450m x 450m triangle.

    - Macartur is fine, the South, North naming of a station of same name is more confusing.

    - No idea

    - Hawkesbury/Brooklyn, both names are on the station now.
    Posted: 23 Jun 2018 13:39
      kitchgp Chief Commissioner

    Southern Cross Hotel (Beatle fame) was at the other end of the city, near Parliament (station & seat of government).
    Posted: 03 Jul 2018 22:38

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