SSR locos on the move

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Being that this is probably the SSR loco thread, I thought id ask the question here instead of starting a new post.

Have been seeing L277 being used on SSR SG grain trains.  Not sure who owns it, it was part of Australian Locolease, so am assuming whoever owns that now.

On the L Class though, I've noted that they are the same model as the C Class - how correct is this?  When first built, were they all but the same or are there differences?  I note there have been some changes to the L's since they were built.

(Source re similarity: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/lp2_clyde.html).

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  M636C Minister for Railways

Being that this is probably the SSR loco thread, I thought id ask the question here instead of starting a new post.

Have been seeing L277 being used on SSR SG grain trains.  Not sure who owns it, it was part of Australian Locolease, so am assuming whoever owns that now.

On the L Class though, I've noted that they are the same model as the C Class - how correct is this?  When first built, were they all but the same or are there differences?  I note there have been some changes to the L's since they were built.

(Source re similarity: http://users.cdi.com.au/~johnc/lp2_clyde.html).
james.au

It doesn't help that L277 isn't really an L class.

L277 was built as 1.001 for Comalco in Weipa in Queensland, along with 1.002. These two had heavier frames than standard and weighed 140 tonnes rather than 135 tonnes more or less. They didn't have dynamic brakes either. L277 can't run with full fuel tanks unless it is limited to 80km/h.

But otherwise they were similar to L251 to L273 except that they didn't have pressurised engine and electrical compartments. The pressurisation meant that the air intake was further forward and sloped on the lower edge because the pressurising fan was at an angle.

Later L274 and L275 were built which had the same air system as the two Comalco units (which was based on USA units like the SD40.) These were the standard weight and had dynamic brakes, but were painted a slightly different shade (light blue rather than "Light Admiralty Grey".

When Comalco got GML10 (as 1.004) they sold 1.002 to WAGR who numbered it 276. I guess it was really L 276 but the "L" didn't appear anywhere on it. It was only used as a trailing unit and had its engine removed and put in a standard L class.

276 was sold and stored for a long time at Dynon. It was then rebuilt and numbered LZ 3119 but quickly renumbered to LZ3120. It had holes cut in the frame to make it lighter and was fitted with dynamic brakes at the same time.

Anyway VR decided around 1975 or so that they needed ten locos of that power so they bought the C class. These were like 274 and 275 except that they had a different design of cab and different arrangements for the sandboxes.

C class didn't have handrails like the L class as built, but had handrails on the side of the hood. Later proper handrails were fitted (but those on the hood stayed) and a tiny platform was added to the nose.

But all of these locomotives were model GT26C.

After moving to private ownership, the C class had toilets fitted at the back end, removing the platform there, except C501 which was preserved (although it still ran freight trains from time to time).

But the basic components of all these locomotives were the same.

Peter
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The L class has an EMD645e3 plant I think.
  DounutCereal Chief Train Controller

Location: Who knows.
The L class has an EMD645e3 plant I think.
freightgate
Yep, built with a 16-645E3 unless it's been changed in a rebuild (Like how the C's got an E3C transplanted in, though I think the L's have been kept in original configuration)
  Jack Le Lievre Junior Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
G'day All,
B61 'Bernie Baker', GM22 & L277 through Corio at 20:23 E.D.T.

Sorry for the delay, I had trouble logging in to Railpage Surprised/
Regards,

Jack
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I see Vicsig have some fresh photos of T386 & T385 running a driver training run out to Traralgon and back this week. Is there something on the horizon with SSR on the Gippsland line?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I see Vicsig have some fresh photos of T386 & T385 running a driver training run out to Traralgon and back this week. Is there something on the horizon with SSR on the Gippsland line?
Gman_86
Probably just driver training, to keep their crew up to date with this line.
  cbinyon Junior Train Controller

Apparently for when the line is shutting down, SSR doing some work for Vline I read
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Will be operating rail train(s) down that way.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Will be operating rail train(s) down that way.
bingley hall

Any idea of the motive power?
  Donald Deputy Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Will be operating rail train(s) down that way.

Any idea of the motive power?
x31
Whatever moves.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

According to FB, B65 is about to head South again and get BG bogies. Engine needs a rebuild...
  Dangersdan707 Deputy Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Always good to see a B class going again
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: no longer in Sydney
According to FB, B65 is about to head South again and get BG bogies. Engine needs a rebuild...
Carnot
When citing FB as a source, could you actually advise the Group name, as some may have an interest in some of the groups there.
  2LaGrange Train Controller

B65 is being moved to Bendigo for further storage.
No plans for reactivation at the moment but obviously being stored at SSRs Bendigo site means it’s in the right spot should future loco demands justify the work needed to get it back to running condition.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
B65 is being moved to Bendigo for further storage.
No plans for reactivation at the moment but obviously being stored at SSRs Bendigo site means it’s in the right spot should future loco demands justify the work needed to get it back to running condition.
2LaGrange

Nice to see a rational summing up of the situation.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
With its classmates B75 & B61 based in Vic, as well as its GM and S class cousins, B65 may be getting relocated in the case that it is required to donate parts.

That would make more sense than spending big bucks re-activating a 65 year old locomotive.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
With its classmates B75 & B61 based in Vic, as well as its GM and S class cousins, B65 may be getting relocated in the case that it is required to donate parts.

That would make more sense than spending big bucks re-activating a 65 year old locomotive.
Gman_86

2LaGrange is on the money.

Though the immediate reason may simply just be that its cheaper to store it at Bendigo than Goulburn Razz
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Pics over on VicSig this morning of B65 being transferred from Seymour to South Dynon by T363 and T386

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Pics over on VicSig this morning of B65 being transferred from Seymour to South Dynon by T363 and T386

BG
BrentonGolding

B65 into Bunbury Street today with a loaded grain to Kensington.

  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Pics over on VicSig this morning of B65 being transferred from Seymour to South Dynon by T363 and T386

BG

B65 into Bunbury Street today with a loaded grain to Kensington.

bevans

That's B75.

B65 is a non runner and is now at Bendigo workshops for indefinite storage.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Who/what got/will get its SG bogies?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
That's B75.

B65 is a non runner and is now at Bendigo workshops for indefinite storage.
bingley hall
Yep, was definitely B65 on transfer yesterday, you can't miss that fetching Auscision Models livery, stands out like bolts on a tall dog!

BG
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Who/what got/will get its SG bogies?
james.au
Under S312 currently at Lithgow for its journey south to Seymour.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
what is S312 going to do?

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