Graincorp dumps Aurizon

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
https://www.pressreader.com/australia/daily-mercury/20180531/281513636831680/textview

In the absence of a free access article refer above (im working on that but @bevans Im assuming that RP will pick it up soon).

Graincorp has not contracted with Aurizon for the SW Queensland and Central Queensland grain haulage work, approx 1 million tonnes per year (im assuming take or pay basis).  I cant yet find who has won (PN and QUBE are on my mind), but I'm sure it will be revealed soon.

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  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
https://www.pressreader.com/australia/daily-mercury/20180531/281513636831680/textview

In the absence of a free access article refer above (im working on that but @bevans Im assuming that RP will pick it up soon).

Graincorp has not contracted with Aurizon for the SW Queensland and Central Queensland grain haulage work, approx 1 million tonnes per year (im assuming take or pay basis).  I cant yet find who has won (PN and QUBE are on my mind), but I'm sure it will be revealed soon.
james.au

Well well well, more business being lost by the management team at that operator.  Is it safe to assume these grain routes are all or at least most on the NG network?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
CQ and SWQ are exclusively NG networks.
  fzr560 Chief Train Controller

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/daily-mercury/20180531/281513636831680/textview

In the absence of a free access article refer above (im working on that but @bevans Im assuming that RP will pick it up soon).

Graincorp has not contracted with Aurizon for the SW Queensland and Central Queensland grain haulage work, approx 1 million tonnes per year (im assuming take or pay basis).  I cant yet find who has won (PN and QUBE are on my mind), but I'm sure it will be revealed soon.
james.au
PN's recently delivered sugar wagons may find some additional use in the "off" season.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
CQ and SWQ are exclusively NG networks.
james.au

making it hard for another operator to come into the market.  When does the change take effect?
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
CQ and SWQ are exclusively NG networks.

making it hard for another operator to come into the market.  When does the change take effect?
x31
Maybe Tasrail could branch out? Laughing
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?
james.au

Either way they are facing freight losses on the NG network with a diminishing business.
  fzr560 Chief Train Controller

Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?
james.au
Aurizon have a whole bunch of life-expired wagons already on SG. Recent events would suggest that Aurizon is interested in coal and not much else. I wouldn't be hunting for contracts if I didn't have 92t gross wagons at a minimum. I don't believe any NG wagons would fit the bill.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?
Aurizon have a whole bunch of life-expired wagons already on SG. Recent events would suggest that Aurizon is interested in coal and not much else. I wouldn't be hunting for contracts if I didn't have 92t gross wagons at a minimum. I don't believe any NG wagons would fit the bill.
fzr560
The Aurizon Grain wagons would be only 15.75 Tonne axle load ? well out of date.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?

Either way they are facing freight losses on the NG network with a diminishing business.
x31

Regretably and probably foolhardily, Aurizon's operating footprint and its traffic diversity may be diminishing - but it's narrow gauge coal business is booming, with nearly 20-million tonnes of additional traffic signed up in 2017, compared with the 3.75-milllion tonnes of sugar, grain and intermodal traffic lost in Queensland during 2017/2018/2019. As a company, the volume losses will go virtually unnoticed, although regionally (and for staff), Aurizon will disappear from a number of lines once the grain and intermodal businesses wrap up.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Link to old agreement announcement

GrainCorp and Aurizon sign 7 year rail agreement 19 Dec 2012 ...

I wonder if Aurizon could convert these wagons to SG at all and go on the hunt for SG contracts?

Either way they are facing freight losses on the NG network with a diminishing business.

Regretably and probably foolhardily, Aurizon's operating footprint and its traffic diversity may be diminishing - but it's narrow gauge coal business is booming, with nearly 20-million tonnes of additional traffic signed up in 2017, compared with the 3.75-milllion tonnes of sugar, grain and intermodal traffic lost in Queensland during 2017/2018/2019. As a company, the volume losses will go virtually unnoticed, although regionally (and for staff), Aurizon will disappear from a number of lines once the grain and intermodal businesses wrap up.
Sulla1
Aurizon Is all about making money for their shareholders, not running marginal rail services where little profit Is obtained (add aging equipment Into the mix too and their agenda Is very clear)
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Watco is reportedly the new GrainCorp operator in Queensland, taking over operations in November 2019. It is rumoured to have outbid SSR for the narrow gauge contract. It isn't immediately clear what rollingstock it will use, however the equipment available to it in Western Australia can be ruled out - both by ownership and being out-of-gauge for the QR and Aurizon networks. It can be anticipated the equivalent of four 39-wagon 63-tonne gross grain sets will be needed by the new operator with at least seven locomotives capable of operating on QR's 15.75-tonne axle load grain network west and south west of Toowoomba.

The Central Queensland grain network will be almost entirely on Aurizon's 26.5-tonne axle load network by next year, with the exception of the Moura silos (QR's short section of mothballed 15.75-tonne track from the Aurizon line), QR's North Coast Line from Yukan to Erakla and the Mackay Harbour branch from Erakala - the later two lines are 20-tonne axle load.

Queensland's grain crop can be highly variable, with production reaching 2.5-million tonnes some years, but is frequently under 500-thousand tonnes.
Sulla1
The world appears to be awash with surplus metre gauge sub 15.75 tonne locos at the moment

India is rapidly converting its metre gauge network to BG

A quick phone call to RITES (IR's quango disposal agent) should solicit an offer of YDM-4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YDM-4

There are possibly 200 surplus YDM-4 rusted to rails in India at the moment. This model is a third world special, totally bullet proof, has survived atrocious conditions in Mozambique, Tanzania, Sudan, Benin, Senegal, Vietnam, Malaysia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, etc. Bogie frames accommodate Cape gauge conversion



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCBR7fv9e7s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1gguXFx8k

Or DLW will build new with current generation breaking, dynamic brakes, digital control. 18 new build delivered to Myanmar last year http://www.dlw.indianrailways.gov.in/works/uploads/File/_DSC7817%201.jpg

If India and these third world nations can't break them, they should survive on the wet sphagetti that passes for rail in rural Qld.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Aurizon Is all about making money for their shareholders, not running marginal rail services where little profit Is obtained (add aging equipment Into the mix too and their agenda Is very clear)
Nightfire
Well they, and the Queensland Govt, should have been upfront and honest about that from the beginning.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Watco is reportedly the new GrainCorp operator in Queensland, taking over operations in November 2019. It is rumoured to have outbid SSR for the narrow gauge contract.
Sulla1

Rumoured - maybe.

Factually - No.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Aurizon Is all about making money for their shareholders, not running marginal rail services where little profit Is obtained (add aging equipment Into the mix too and their agenda Is very clear)
Well they, and the Queensland Govt, should have been upfront and honest about that from the beginning.
bingley hall
The Queensland Government needed $$ for their budget.
  br30453 Chief Train Controller

Aurizon Is all about making money for their shareholders, not running marginal rail services where little profit Is obtained (add aging equipment Into the mix too and their agenda Is very clear)
Well they, and the Queensland Govt, should have been upfront and honest about that from the beginning.
bingley hall
As a public company the directors and management are required by law to make money for their shareholder
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
So who can come in and do this work for Graincorp as it seems there is an opportunity for an operator.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

So who can come in and do this work for Graincorp as it seems there is an opportunity for an operator.
x31

Another rail operator has taken up the contract, and will be taking over haulage in November 2019. There is no official confirmation, but Watco is the name circulating within the rail industry. Neither Watco or GrainCorp have made any statements to confirm this.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Another rail operator has taken up the contract, and will be taking over haulage in November 2019. There is no official confirmation, but Watco is the name circulating within the rail industry. Neither Watco or GrainCorp have made any statements to confirm this.
Sulla1

That is a great heads up @Sulla1 thanks for all of us. Exciting times for some and not for others.

You have to wonder how moving grain at Aurizon could not be profitable.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner


Another rail operator has taken up the contract, and will be taking over haulage in November 2019. There is no official confirmation, but Watco is the name circulating within the rail industry. Neither Watco or GrainCorp have made any statements to confirm this.
That is a great heads up @Sulla1 thanks for all of us. Exciting times for some and not for others.

You have to wonder how moving grain at Aurizon could not be profitable.
bevans

The Queensland grain crop is incredibly variable, 2.5-million tonnes on occasions, and then less than 500,000-tonnes for years at a time. Compared to the sugar traffic, which was stable year-in-year-out, the grain task is very hard to manage and plan rollingstock capacity for. The new operator will have to have deep pockets or a shoe string operating budget to make ends meet. Knowing how this current Aurizon management thinks, they probably couldn't wait to get out of grain. Sims will soon have another 150 or so wagons to scrap.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Im thinking we might see another Mt Isa line issue where grain ends up on road for a period....
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Watco is reportedly the new GrainCorp operator in Queensland, taking over operations in November 2019. It is rumoured to have outbid SSR for the narrow gauge contract.

Rumoured - maybe.

Factually - No.
bingley hall
True Bing. However for the Queensland scene, Sulla's track record is impressively on the money. However your point is correct it is not fact.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Aurizon Is all about making money for their shareholders, not running marginal rail services where little profit Is obtained (add aging equipment Into the mix too and their agenda Is very clear)
Well they, and the Queensland Govt, should have been upfront and honest about that from the beginning.
As a public company the directors and management are required by law to make money for their shareholder
br30453

Where did I say that wasn't the case?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
By law ?

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