A history of Ticket Machines on board Adelaide Rail-cars

 
  Heath Loxton Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA
Hello Everyone;

I am interested in the history of automatic ticket vending machines (TVM's) on our trains.

When were the first TVM's installed on our trains ?

Was the first version of TVM's different from the last pre metro-card version ?

Why were TVM's installed on board trains, instead of on the platform, as is the norm in other states ?

Thank you.

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  Heath Loxton Chief Train Controller

Location: Adelaide, SA
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  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
A bit off topic but there was once a tender to put ticket machines on board trains in the NSW Hunter Valley.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Why were TVM's installed on board trains, instead of on the platform, as is the norm in other states ?
Heath Loxton
Two reasons.

1. Because the ticketing system introduced by the STA in 1987 has timed tickets validated on the vehicles rather than location-based tickets validated on the station platforms, and the Liberal government of the time would not have been interested in paying for complete replacement of a system which was still fairly recently introduced and quite cheap to operate.

2. Far easier to have vending machines on what was a fleet of 100 railcars at the time (which could have cash retrieval and servicing done at the depot) than on around 137 platforms at 89 different stations which would have needed additional security resources and a team of crews who would have spent more time driving around than actually retrieving cash and servicing the vending machines. Oh, and would you have been happy going out to stations like Christie Downs or Smithfield to empty out hundreds of dollars of cash?
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The STA would never have had to empty the machines on platforms at Smithfield and Elizabeth. No one from those stations has ever purchased a ticket, and if a visitor did, the locals would have emptied the machine on behalf of the STA anyway.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I wonder how many revenue officers travel on the Gawler line?

There must be heaps of them on the books, judging by the squadrons of up to eight at a time I've seen travelling through the nice leafy suburbs on Belair trains.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Oh, and the gates were wide open with no staff in sight last time I went through Noarlunga Centre on a Seaford train. I didn't think that expensive little stunt would last long.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I wouldn’t claim to be a frequent traveller to Noarlunga on the train, but on the few times I have bothered to go to Noarlunga by train since the gates were installed NOT ONCE have they been in operation. I am wondering if they ever are.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I go down that way once every 2-3 weeks, but not always by train. I've seen them staffed a grand total of two times since they were installed.

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