High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT) Order

 
  loopy Locomotive Fireman

I've only re-found out as of 5 minutes ago that YES, Frankston trains CAN operate through P3 & P4 Caulfield stations [unlike what I wrongfully assumed earlier on this year], but due to the down DNG to up DNG track being de-electrified those Frankston trains must go through P2 & P3 Glen Huntly to Moorabbin stations

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  jdekorte Assistant Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
I've only re-found out as of 5 minutes ago that YES, Frankston trains CAN operate through P3 & P4 Caulfield stations [unlike what I wrongfully assumed earlier on this year], but due to the down DNG to up DNG track being de-electrified those Frankston trains must go through P2 & P3 Glen Huntly to Moorabbin stations
loopy
Well, for the time being they can. I've been told that the down junction will be totally removed when the new elevated line to Dandenong is hooked up.

However, the reason for this diversion was that there was plenty of work happening this weekend up and down the line although I only saw parts of what was taking place from Malvern to Armadale.  I did notice that new signalling conduits were being installed between Caulfield Platforms 2 & 3 and the Caulfield signal box.  Also, foundations for overheads have been drilled into the platform 1 and Malvern Stn and from what I saw from the Glenferrie Rd bridge, lots more overhead foundations were built between Malvern - Armadale.  They will probably do the same on the other lines on another weekend. I'll be interested to see how they will build new overhead foundations into the sheer brick walls at certain locations in Armadale.
  loopy Locomotive Fireman

I know where you mean, just on the down of Armadale. What I think they'll do is 2 stanchion posts in between the Frankston and Dandenong tracks - 1 set overhang to the Frankston side, the other the Dandenong side. There should be plenty of room considering signals can fit in between both sets of tracks
  kitchgp Chief Train Controller

Looking at the new Signal Diagram and photos of Noble Park all the signals appear to be Home signals, whereas it would seem that, as there aren’t any points to protect, Automatics would be appropriate. Has this anything to do with the High Capacity Signalling?
  jdekorte Assistant Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
I know where you mean, just on the down of Armadale. What I think they'll do is 2 stanchion posts in between the Frankston and Dandenong tracks - 1 set overhang to the Frankston side, the other the Dandenong side. There should be plenty of room considering signals can fit in between both sets of tracks
loopy
That was possibly my thinking too although it doesn't leave a huge amount of room - these new stanchions are much bigger than anything else that has been used in Melbourne. I know this is a petty detail but with new stanchions on the Hurstrbridge line and new stanchions on the Glen Waverly line, many of the stanchions have 6 bolts at the base. The new stanchions along the Dandenong corridor have 12 bolts at the base. The other possibility is that stanchions overhanging the Frankston side can be installed from the embankment while the ones for the Dandenong side can be installed from the median - this would only be in certain locations. The same thing will have to happen in South Yarra in the vicinity of the Chapel St bridge.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
I've been browsing the HCMT tender documents and I believe I've found the answer about Grades of Automation and the like:

ROL-659
Each HCMT shall be capable of semi-automated train operation to 'GOA2' in accordance with IEC 62290-1 with the following 'GOA4' features defined in IEC 62290-2: automatic turnback, automatic train preparation (awake and sleep), automatic stabling, jog and creep (degraded train operation).
I've heard once the Metro tunnel is up and running, the trains will eventually run themselves through the tunnel from Dandenong to Sunbury and be completely automated in the yards.
I doubt that there will be push-button operation (i.e GOA2) between Sunbury and Dandenong - that functionality will only be used on sections where all trains equipped with High Capacity Signalling hardware. West Footscray - South Yarra MMRT junction is the most likely GOA2 sector in that instance. WFY is the temporary terminus for the extra services that will go to Melton in the future and there's a guarantee that no freight or V/Line trains will pass through the electrified platforms.
LancedDendrite
Update: High Capacity Signalling is to be implemented between Watergardens and Dandenong.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
I've been browsing the HCMT tender documents and I believe I've found the answer about Grades of Automation and the like:

ROL-659
Each HCMT shall be capable of semi-automated train operation to 'GOA2' in accordance with IEC 62290-1 with the following 'GOA4' features defined in IEC 62290-2: automatic turnback, automatic train preparation (awake and sleep), automatic stabling, jog and creep (degraded train operation).
I've heard once the Metro tunnel is up and running, the trains will eventually run themselves through the tunnel from Dandenong to Sunbury and be completely automated in the yards.
I doubt that there will be push-button operation (i.e GOA2) between Sunbury and Dandenong - that functionality will only be used on sections where all trains equipped with High Capacity Signalling hardware. West Footscray - South Yarra MMRT junction is the most likely GOA2 sector in that instance. WFY is the temporary terminus for the extra services that will go to Melton in the future and there's a guarantee that no freight or V/Line trains will pass through the electrified platforms.
Update: High Capacity Signalling is to be implemented between Watergardens and Dandenong.
LancedDendrite
Yeah, people wonder why there are dedicated control centers on the two lines as well....
  jdekorte Assistant Commissioner

Location: Near Caulfield Station
Further work was done between Caulfield - South Yarra over the past weekend for the HCMT upgrades.  Trains were switched to just using the Frankston tracks over the whole weekend which meant that normal expresses were turned into stopping all stations - and Caulfield was busy with bus replacements linking to the Glen Waverly line.

From what I could see out the train window, much of the work was related to digging signalling conduits are various locations.  It looks like new signals will be installed at a closer spacing, and in different locations to the existing signals.  Also more foundations were constructed for overhead stanchions - there is an ever increasing amount of them appearing along the corridor.  Foundations were also dug into the Platform 4's at Malvern and Toorak.

The upgrade project is using whatever space is available so there is still a fenced off worksite on the downside of Malvern between the tracks and Dandenong Rd plus the very large works depot in the old Malvern sidings area - there is a huge amount of stocked material here. Also, there's a smaller amount of material in a corner of the South Yarra sidings park and a work site has yet to be fully activated next to the Cremorne substation.

Great to see this activity taking place.
  rokaifly Station Master

At downer facility in Newport and I heard that the first HCMT train should be arriving into Newport this Monday coming

Not sure what time of day though
  potatoinmymouth Junior Train Controller

Paving The Way For More Trains More Often
The connection to the mainline at Pakenham East will be installed in the coming shutdown.
  potatoinmymouth Junior Train Controller

Melbourne’s Bigger, Better Trains On The Way
Government press release announcing commencement of fitout at Newport.
  Crossover Junior Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
Melbourne’s Bigger, Better Trains On The Way
Government press release announcing commencement of fitout at Newport.
potatoinmymouth
In a way "Back to the Future "" for the Newport Site

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