C30T RTR HO scale - Wombat Models surprise release

 
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Oh my! To be released at Epping exhibition tomorrow. Details at https://www.facebook.com/Wombat-Models-230276970894062/ and https://wombatmodels.com.au/

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
For those pondering the obvious question, this message has been posted on the Wombat facebook page:

"Just to let everyone know as we were expecting people would be asking plenty of questions, yes we were also caught up in the failed 30t project and lost money too, we have no legal obligation to honour orders made with that company.
However if you come along to the show and see us with a receipt and we have also managed to get “what we are aware is a complete list of pre orders” we will be supplying those people with an offer.
Yes we know how frustrating it is when your hard earned goes into a project and it fails so all we are trying to do is Release a product and try to somewhat help others who were in the same position as us"

For those pondering the other obvious question, no I'm not affiliated with Wombat Models.
  apw5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Very interesting.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Now for the details (released this morning).

Quote -
We are very pleased to announce that we have 300 30t’s here this weekend.
They are all a 6 wheel tender version
3004 Saturated Red Lined
3009 Drumhead
3065 Saturated Red Lined...

These locos are DCC ready working headlight, rear of tender lights and even an interior cab light
Model Railroad Craftsman have brought in 50 ESU Nano Decoders that fit comfortably into the Tender. We will be providing a service offering DCC Installation for a fee

Now what everyone is waiting for the Price.
We are hoping to keep it at a very competitive, low and far less then a lot of people are expecting.
$350 each ready to run
Yes that’s correct only $350, so you can basically buy 2 for the average price of other steam locos.

Don’t forget we are at stand 47 with Meerkat Models
- Unquote

Boy, will this upset the apple cart (read status quo).

Happy buying,

John
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Any idea whether this price will be offered to those unable to shop in person?
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
website ordering is expected to be available any moment
  br30453 Train Controller

Any idea whether this price will be offered to those unable to shop in person?
gw0071
Quote: All of these current 6 wheel tenders including the ones currently on the ship will be at $350.
If the sales continue as well as they have gone so far the bogie tender version is more then likely to happen. This will probably be a slightly higher price due to having to change the tooling for the tender differences
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

Thank you PoathTV
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
I was at the exhibition today and must say that I got a very pleasant surprise at the discount offered for those caught up in the Shrike saga.

Many thanks to Wombat Models for helping those who lost out with the original C30T orders through Shrike Models.

Happy C30Ting,

John
  apw5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
So what discount is being offered?
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
website ordering is expected to be available any moment
Poath Junction

It's online now.  Must have happened today as it wasn't there last night.

https://wombatmodels.com.au/shop?olsPage=products
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
So what discount is being offered?
apw5910
Sorry apw5910.  I don't think that I should publicise the discount, as that really is the prerogative of Wombat Models, who have chosen not to do so.  I can assure you that it is a quite impressive discount.

If you were a victim of the Shrike problem I suggest that you contact Wombat Models in person, as I did.

Happy buying,

John
  gw0071 Deputy Commissioner

So who's bought one?

For us more distant prospective buyers, how does it rate - is at an SR 10 or an Austrains 36?
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
Cut to the chase - Is the funnel any good ?

Regards,

Catchpoint
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Cut to the chase - Is the funnel any good ?

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint
No it's not, I can't get any water to run through it!  

But the chimney has a few defects, like most RTR models.  Typically it is a plug in to the metal moulding base on top of the boiler.  This gives an unprototypical line around the chimney at the base of the tapered section.  There is also a line around the chimney at the top of the taper as the flared section is starting.  Mine also has a non-prototypical lean to the rear.  Must have hit a coal loading chute.

Plenty of scope for a detail upgrade, eh James.

Happy chimneying,

John
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

So who's bought one?

For us more distant prospective buyers, how does it rate - is at an SR 10 or an Austrains 36?
gw0071
Neither of those models, best compared to the Ixion 32 Class as that basically what it is...well this time as a C30T

The tender is an Ixion 32 Class 6 wheeler, identical inside and out.
Loco is possibly a little heavier than the 32 and has a cab roof light as an extra.
Running characteristics similar the the 32.

It will basically suits those who are more interested in price.
  a6et Minister for Railways

So who's bought one?

For us more distant prospective buyers, how does it rate - is at an SR 10 or an Austrains 36?
Neither of those models, best compared to the Ixion 32 Class as that basically what it is...well this time as a C30T

The tender is an Ixion 32 Class 6 wheeler, identical inside and out.
Loco is possibly a little heavier than the 32 and has a cab roof light as an extra.
Running characteristics similar the the 32.

It will basically suits those who are more interested in price.
Captain Underpants
I will be getting one in time.

If as has been said this is the Shrike 30T, except for the dumb funnel arrangements the model should pull very well, I checked the Shrike model out at Liverpool 2 years back and it had vg weight and that was very impressive as its all metal as against the Ixion 32 only having weight tubes in the boiler barrel.

The NSWGR 30T was a very versatile locomotive in many areas where it worked they hauled quite impressive loads for a small loco, the Superheated versions could haul the same as the 32 but official loads were less.  They were the prime loco's to work many branch lines some in conjunction with the 32cl. They rode much better than the 32 as well.

Any Steam era NSW layout would find one of these a very pleasant model to have.  The price is excellent and a fair amount cheaper than what was on offer from Shrike even at the EB price point.
  Captain Underpants Train Controller

So who's bought one?

For us more distant prospective buyers, how does it rate - is at an SR 10 or an Austrains 36?
Neither of those models, best compared to the Ixion 32 Class as that basically what it is...well this time as a C30T

The tender is an Ixion 32 Class 6 wheeler, identical inside and out.
Loco is possibly a little heavier than the 32 and has a cab roof light as an extra.
Running characteristics similar the the 32.

It will basically suits those who are more interested in price.
I will be getting one in time.

If as has been said this is the Shrike 30T, except for the dumb funnel arrangements the model should pull very well, I checked the Shrike model out at Liverpool 2 years back and it had vg weight and that was very impressive as its all metal as against the Ixion 32 only having weight tubes in the boiler barrel.

The NSWGR 30T was a very versatile locomotive in many areas where it worked they hauled quite impressive loads for a small loco, the Superheated versions could haul the same as the 32 but official loads were less.  They were the prime loco's to work many branch lines some in conjunction with the 32cl. They rode much better than the 32 as well.

Any Steam era NSW layout would find one of these a very pleasant model to have.  The price is excellent and a fair amount cheaper than what was on offer from Shrike even at the EB price point.
a6et



Weighing in at only 194 grams in total (Loco 151 + Tender 43) I would assume there is not too much metal in this model compared to the DJH C30T at 276 grams (Loco 198 + Tender 78) and the Austrains 30 Class Tank at 203 gram with no tender so I would say its pretty light.

Even the Ixion 32 loco weighed in at 209 grams in total (Loco 160 + Bogie Tender 59), slightly more than the new C30T

And while I was at it, the Trainorama 32 weighed in at a hefty 324 grams (Loco 242 + tender 82)


These are the weights of all 5 locos I have on my bench, as standard, so this is my own personal weight comparison.


Yes it is an an excellent price and that's why they will sell with this being the main reason why I have one.
Where can get a Australian steam loco these days for that price.

It is a decent looking loco which I'm sure there will be a few comparison complaints mentioned out there in time.
It pulled the carriages on the flat with no problems but did struggle when confronted with a grade.

I don't regret getting one and it will play it's part on my layout.
  a6et Minister for Railways

So who's bought one?

For us more distant prospective buyers, how does it rate - is at an SR 10 or an Austrains 36?
Neither of those models, best compared to the Ixion 32 Class as that basically what it is...well this time as a C30T

The tender is an Ixion 32 Class 6 wheeler, identical inside and out.
Loco is possibly a little heavier than the 32 and has a cab roof light as an extra.
Running characteristics similar the the 32.

It will basically suits those who are more interested in price.
I will be getting one in time.

If as has been said this is the Shrike 30T, except for the dumb funnel arrangements the model should pull very well, I checked the Shrike model out at Liverpool 2 years back and it had vg weight and that was very impressive as its all metal as against the Ixion 32 only having weight tubes in the boiler barrel.

The NSWGR 30T was a very versatile locomotive in many areas where it worked they hauled quite impressive loads for a small loco, the Superheated versions could haul the same as the 32 but official loads were less.  They were the prime loco's to work many branch lines some in conjunction with the 32cl. They rode much better than the 32 as well.

Any Steam era NSW layout would find one of these a very pleasant model to have.  The price is excellent and a fair amount cheaper than what was on offer from Shrike even at the EB price point.



Weighing in at only 194 grams in total (Loco 151 + Tender 43) I would assume there is not too much metal in this model compared to the DJH C30T at 276 grams (Loco 198 + Tender 78) and the Austrains 30 Class Tank at 203 gram with no tender so I would say its pretty light.

Even the Ixion 32 loco weighed in at 209 grams in total (Loco 160 + Bogie Tender 59), slightly more than the new C30T

And while I was at it, the Trainorama 32 weighed in at a hefty 324 grams (Loco 242 + tender 82)


These are the weights of all 5 locos I have on my bench, as standard, so this is my own personal weight comparison.


Yes it is an an excellent price and that's why they will sell with this being the main reason why I have one.
Where can get a Australian steam loco these days for that price.

It is a decent looking loco which I'm sure there will be a few comparison complaints mentioned out there in time.
It pulled the carriages on the flat with no problems but did struggle when confronted with a grade.

I don't regret getting one and it will play it's part on my layout.
Captain Underpants
Thing to remember is that the 30T did not haul loads that were of the same amount of the 32cl, while the superheated loco's could haul them, all the load tables showed the tank, saturated and superheated loco's sharing the same load and conditions, there would be areas that have a variation between the suburban tanks and the tender types.

One would expect the 32cl even the Ixion model to be heavier owing to the overall size, the aspect of tender weight should not be considered as it really is part of the load, and what the model can pull.
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

Ok I bought one @ $350 got it home ran it and almost bought another one and the only reason I didn't because of available numbers RTR . I have enough of  to finish doing without starting another on ,getting the right decal numbers being the main problem .
Does it pull YES
Does it look like a 30T YES
Can you fit sound to it YES
Is it value for money YES (my personal oppinion)

Ive been told by Shrike investors (who put their cold hard down @ $495) that to purchase 1 is $100 extra .
  The railway dog Junior Train Controller

I had occasion to ring them over a minor issue. They seem a nice bunch. They answer the phone & talk to you. Not always the case elsewhere.
  apw5910 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
They answer the phone
The railway dog
They certainly don't "get back to you within 48 hours" from their webpage "Send Us a Line."
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
Prior to the Wombat release of the 30T locomotive, I received the first 1/2 of my C30 tank locomotive order (the no headlight models), contained within the parcel was a pre-order form for the Austrains 30T

I have just received the 2nd 1/2 of my Austrains C30 tank locomotive order (headlight version) post Wombat release and there was no Austrains 30T pre-order form......

I seem to recall (don't have the form in front of me) the pre-order prioce was to be $770.00 per loco.

Is the Austrains 30T project now dead, in the water?

For those who were there (I wasn't) what was the vibe at Rosehill on that front?

Regards,

Catchpoint
  a6et Minister for Railways

Prior to the Wombat release of the 30T locomotive, I received the first 1/2 of my C30 tank locomotive order (the no headlight models), contained within the parcel was a pre-order form for the Austrains 30T

I have just received the 2nd 1/2 of my Austrains C30 tank locomotive order (headlight version) post Wombat release and there was no Austrains 30T pre-order form......

I seem to recall (don't have the form in front of me) the pre-order prioce was to be $770.00 per loco.

Is the Austrains 30T project now dead, in the water?

For those who were there (I wasn't) what was the vibe at Rosehill on that front?

Regards,

Catchpoint
catchpoint
At $770.00 as pre-delivery price, I would say that the model was waiting on a surf rescue team to bail it out.  At the price that Wombat are asking for their model, its not likely the Austrains model would or could stay afloat.

I would like to have a 30T but not paying over $700.00 for one.
  catchpoint Assistant Commissioner

Location: At the end of a loop
At $770.00 as pre-delivery price, I would say that the model was waiting on a surf rescue team to bail it out.  At the price that Wombat are asking for their model, its not likely the Austrains model would or could stay afloat.

I would like to have a 30T but not paying over $700.00 for one.
a6et

Thanks for your reply a6et, but I did not ask if people would buy one, I was wanting to know if there was any advice (rumor mongering) whether the Austrains 30T project was still a going concern....or  not

Regards,

Catchpoint

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