Murray Basin standardisation

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The previous Lib govt repaired the Rainbow SG line and reopened Echuca-Toolamba BG.

IIRC Graincorp were screaming for Dookie to be reopened, and the insurance money to repair the Eaglehawk to Inglewood line after the 2011 floods was spent elsewhere (they chose to just fix bridge at Arnold on Dunolly-Korong Vale line.

Dookie is still a point of contention for Graincorp who have been increasingly frustrated with the minister.
Source?
james.au

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  james.au Chief Commissioner
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

I found that too but since it was a poltician's word I thought it best to leave well alone!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
It's a call for action only,  but considering she is an independent I recon she has more impact than a party hack.  Definitely has more local concern.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I'm hearing parts of the Mildura line are cleared for 80 km/h operation?

On broken rails and splintered sleepers that sounds very dangerous Razz
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I'm hearing parts of the Mildura line are cleared for 80 km/h operation?

On broken rails and splintered sleepers that sounds very dangerous Razz
bingley hall
Long parts or short parts? It is a pretty long railway line after all.

Theoretically (not that I believe the scare campaign myself) there could be long sections cleared for 80km/h and other equally as long sections with myriad TSRs due to the ubiquitous V/Line "track fault", shorthand in this case for track buckling due to dog screws direct into Mallee sand. Razz

BG
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I'm hearing parts of the Mildura line are cleared for 80 km/h operation?
bingley hall
Maryborough to Donald
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I'm hearing parts of the Mildura line are cleared for 80 km/h operation?
Maryborough to Donald
Nightfire
So MBY to Donald is around 113 km @ 80 km/h then most of the rest is now 60km/h to Merbein with possible / probable TSRs at points along the line.

Not too bad, hopefully it continues to improve until we have full line speed (80km/h) all the way

BG
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
What would be keeping the sections north of Donald at 60kph?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Also are loadings hitting 21TAL yet?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Also are loadings hitting 21TAL yet?
james.au

The Birchip grainy on Sunday was.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
I'm hearing parts of the Mildura line are cleared for 80 km/h operation?

On broken rails and splintered sleepers that sounds very dangerous Razz
bingley hall
Yes bingley, it's quite amazing that 3 50 wagon fruity trains, probably 2000+ tonnes, as well as a few grain trains, 2500 tonne each, travel over rails with failing welds, lack of ballast, broken rails, rotten sleepers, loose dog screws, buckled rails, rails that have been over or under tensioned and cracking sleepers, is about to have the speed limit cracked up to 80 kmh, V/Lines ability to achieve, this is astounding.

Moving on, here's a quote from last weeks press release;

these works will see us reach some project milestones in the coming weeks with V/Line advising speed restrictions on the Yelta to Maryborough line will be lifted by the end of June, enabling trains to run up to 80km/h, reducing travel times on this section by up to one hour.

I think it was the end of August, they were planning for the M'bgh to A'rt line to have all the crossing's commissioned so hopefully the running times may be nearly respectable.

Greensleeves also said work was continuing on the commission of passing loops as well as siding for grain access, slowly the plan is falling into place.

BigShunter.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Yep.

Though am tending towards agreeing that SeaLake and Manangatang probably wont go over to SG before the current grain season.  They'll go next year, along with whatever they do with Ballarat.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Yep.

Though am agreeing that SeaLake and Manangatang probably wont go over to SG before the current grain season.  They'll go next year, along with whatever they do with Ballarat.
james.au

Watch this space Smile
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Here we go, but looks like a lot of spin

The project will: Untangle congested rail pathways through the Ballarat station precinct – separating broad-gauge passenger services from standard-gauge freight services

Remove the Armstrong Street Bridge single track bottleneck, duplicating one kilometre of track between Ballarat Station and North Ballarat Junction and improve the track layout through the Ballarat rail corridor

Ensure a minimum of 42 weekly return freight paths from the Murray Basin region through Ballarat, with the ability to increase to 65 if required via the Ararat and Maryborough loop

Reduce the number of signalling systems on the Ballarat corridor and upgrade the 1970’s Ballarat signalling system to fit for purpose

Allow greater line speed for freight services within the Ballarat rail corridor by improving track geometry and the removal of congestion points

Provide for the future uplift of passenger services including a fifth daily V/Line service to Ararat, pave the way for additional services to Maryborough and retain the dual-gauge connection between Maryborough and Dunolly to allow future passenger rail to Dunolly
Somebody

So, what is wrong with the current Ballarat Signalling System which was installed during the RFR works?

Armstrong Street Bridge?  That is new

The Ararat uplift of passenger services is really nothing to do with the Murray Basin project.  Why is it included here?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Forgive me for I am stupid but what the hell does this mean?:

  • Ensure a minimum of 42 weekly return freight paths from the Murray Basin region through Ballarat, with the ability to increase to 65 if required via the Ararat and Maryborough loop
Does it 42 'return' paths really mean 84 freight paths/week (SG and BG combined)?  

What does the '...via the Ararat and Maryborough loop...' mean in relation to Ballarat ? Nothing is the only interpretation that I can see.

They still cannot bring themselves to mention the filthy words 'standard gauge' .

Obviously I don't speak the language.Rolling Eyes
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

DG to Dunolly is bizarre bordering on criminal.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
It is SPIN.
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Have to admit having DG from Maryborough to Dunolly seems like a really expensive and poorly thought out idea.

Certain management in V/Line needs to get it through their head that they will be running trains on BG and SG in the future and they need to stop unnecessarily complicating the fustercluck of gauges we have running throughout the state. Accept that SG is their future.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Have to admit having DG from Maryborough to Dunolly seems like a really expensive and poorly thought out idea.
ElliotProvis
You do know that MBY to Dunolly is already Dual Gauge right? Has been since around '96.

http://vicsig.net/infrastructure/line/Yelta

BG
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Have to admit having DG from Maryborough to Dunolly seems like a really expensive and poorly thought out idea.
You do know that MBY to Dunolly is already Dual Gauge right? Has been since around '96.

http://vicsig.net/infrastructure/line/Yelta

BG
BrentonGolding
Rather than being expensive, look at it the other way, not removing the BG rail will save them money.

Though I do really wonder what their thinking is about possible BG passenger trains to Dunolly.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
But putting in the SG to Maryborough will be more expensive. ...
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I hope the Dunolly piece is just till after the election.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
But putting in the SG to Maryborough will be more expensive. ...
james.au
And that is the missing piece of the puzzle.......

BG

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