"A Steam Train Passes" - Out Takes - High Res version

 
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

Some years ago I placed on Youtube a low res copy of the out takes from “A Steam Train Passes”. I often receive requests to upload a better quality copy, and now that I have access to a faster internet connection I've just been able to do that. I’ll quote the description from the video which explains how I gained access to this now historic material.

"During a clean out of the Film Australia archives in the late 1990s a reel of out takes from “A Steam Train Passes was discovered. The pieces of original film had been collected from the “cutting room floor” and randomly spliced together. The original audio had not been saved.
Fortunately the person who found it recognised its historical significance and contacted the NSW RTM. The reel had to be destroyed, but the process could be stalled for a few days. I was asked to digitise the contents and was able to do so before the reel was returned and destroyed.
I have attempted to edit the out takes in a sequence that partially resembles the original story.
I do not own, nor hold the copyright to this original material. A high quality copy of the digitised material has been forwarded to THfNSW for safe keeping."



https://youtu.be/mCjQ_Yn0FoA

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  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Can/will you upload a truly hi-def version to youtube? The best version available at the above link is only 640x480, ie standard definition.
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

Can/will you upload a truly hi-def version to youtube? The best version available at the above link is only 640x480, ie standard definition.
apw5910
The out takes were copied onto DV tape, which is only standard definition. Making a hi def copy will not improve the picture quality once YouTube has finished processing the upload.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
'A Steam Train has Passed' was brilliant.
  neillfarmer Chief Train Controller

You have to wonder what strange bureaucratic process demanded that the original film be destroyed. Probably the same that stops NSWTM from even contemplating preserving CLP10.
Neill Farmer
  4206 Chief Commissioner

Location: Dorrigo yard
Thank you for sharing
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
You have to wonder what strange bureaucratic process demanded that the original film be destroyed. Probably the same that stops NSWTM from even contemplating preserving CLP10.
Neill Farmer
neillfarmer
Or wiped the original Dr Who/Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 60's comedy/Railway Roundabout tapes. Or scrapped the Budd cars. Or this: https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/would-you-burn-the-mona-lisa-if-it-was-sent-our-horror-bureaucratic-bungle-20180213-h0w0w3.html

Unfortunately it is too easy to find examples of bureaucratic incompetence.
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

You have to wonder what strange bureaucratic process demanded that the original film be destroyed. Probably the same that stops NSWTM from even contemplating preserving CLP10.
Neill Farmer
neillfarmer
Film Australia had run out of space at the facility at West Pymble, hence the need to get rid of anything that was deemed as not worth keeping. For legal reasons to do with preventing any potential breaches of copyright, the person in charge of the clean out had to adhere to a strict policy of destroying any material that was being disposed of. Accurate records were being created of each reel that was deemed surplus to requirements and the date on which the film was rendered unusable. Fortunately this person had an interest in railways and recognised the historical significance of what was shown in the out takes and thus contacted the then General Manager of the RTM, Arthur Tubby. Understandably, the employee was not prepared to risk the reel turning up somewhere in the future, but he also appreciated that in this case the breach of copyright policy was just a technicality and gave us the opportunity to make a copy of any of the content that we thought was historically significant. I ended up just copying the whole reel. There must have been other rail related film being edited around the time that "A Steam Train Passes" was being produced because the reel contains snippets of material from quite a few of them, but I could not work out what they were. The "A Steam Train Passes" out takes were jumbled incoherently with this other material.
Later on I had the idea that we could produce a fund raising DVD for the RTM containing the a high quality copy of the finished "A Steam Train Passes" film, and then a compilation of the out takes with narration from the surviving crew of 3801, fireman Harold Fowler and loco inspector Jack Sparkes describing what was going on at the time. However, the idea came to a grinding holt when we found out what the cost would be to obtain permission to use both the out takes and the finished production. It was big dollars per second, but body seemed to care that we had the out takes though.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Film Australia had run out of space at the facility at West Pymble, hence the need to get rid of anything that was deemed as not worth keeping.
Bevan Wall
Did they even consider preserving it digitally? It isn't difficult to do as you would well know!
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

Film Australia had run out of space at the facility at West Pymble, hence the need to get rid of anything that was deemed as not worth keeping.
Did they even consider preserving it digitally? It isn't difficult to do as you would well know!
Graham4405
At the time all  the material being discarded was considered as rubbish, and indeed most of the footage on the reel we got access to was. Film Australia certainly did not have the time to go through  the many reels I saw being loaded into crates for disposal. Remember, they were just out takes, not finished productions.

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