Inland Railway - Construction Phase

 
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
-  Rocla at Mittagong to supply 200,000 concrete sleepers for first stage of Inland Rail
-  $20 million contract creates 20 new jobs in Southern Highlands
-  Pacific National train delivers first sleepers in preparation for construction

https://inlandrail.artc.com.au/mediareleases/news_feed/20-million-inland-rail-contract-creates-20-new-jobs-in-southern-highlands-4-june-2018
Interesting. Equates to around $100/sleeper.
Wonder how much Victoria pays for their lightweight sleepers?
YM-Mundrabilla
Probably double that !

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  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting for the sky to fall, the seas to rise... and seeing a train on the SSFL!
A $13.5M contract has been awarded for feasibility design work on the Narromine to Narrabri section.

"The next step for Inland Rail between Narromine and Narrabri will be to lodge an application for the project to be declared State Significant Infrastructure and the issuing by the NSW Government"

http://www.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/9d29b2b3f5e7efc2b852c008ddaf1b1119945435/documents/attachments/000/081/690/original/180705_Feasibillity_Contract_N2N.pdf?1530840195
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I dont know why they call these things 'feasibility' at this stage - its going to happen regardless of the feasibility results.  Just call it design and move on.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I dont know why they call these things 'feasibility' at this stage - its going to happen regardless of the feasibility results.  Just call it design and move on.
james.au
Because at the moment, 'Feasible' meaning unproven, is all the plan is.
The 'Proof of the Pudding' will be when its completed.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting for the sky to fall, the seas to rise... and seeing a train on the SSFL!
The Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) today announced INLink is the preferred construction contractor for the Parkes to Narromine section of Inland Rail ahead of the contract signing.

http://www.s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/871e305b0a2d1ac2116c072c8ec42be0fc2f52e0/documents/attachments/000/082/016/original/180712_Preferred_Contractor.pdf?1531358556

At least the IR will inject money and hopefully create jobs in rural communities.
  cuthbert Train Controller

Maldon to Dombarton (NSW) was sposed to be "Nation Building" too.

Will there be missing IR links in 50 years?
  neillfarmer Train Controller

The project is moving at a snail's pace. The only actual physical work has been upgrading existing links. I guess that makes sense since that money will be beneficial immediately. As for tunnelling under the Toowoomba Range and building to Kagaru, well, I will believe it when I see it.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Albury council will be briefed in the coming days on the many changes to rail network being introduced by inland rail.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Toowoomba Chronicle 4/10/18. Quoting the paper edition.
"Public Private partnership registrations will open today for the largest diameter diesel freight tunnel in the Southern Hemisphere, drilling 8.9Kms through three ranges for the Inland Rail project. ... for the Gowrie to Kagaru section which includes 8.9Kms  through the Toowooomba, Teviot and Little Liverpool ranges."

Payers can read more.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Thursday, 04 October 2018

ARTC seeks partner for Queensland Inland Rail projects

A Registration of Interest (ROI) process for a Public Private Partnership (PPP) to build an iconic section of the Inland Rail is set to deliver significant innovation in Queensland.

Inland Rail Chief Executive Officer Richard Wankmuller said Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) is continuing to gauge market appetite for the once-in-a-generation opportunity to deliver the Inland Rail PPP section from Gowrie near Toowoomba to Kagaru near Brisbane.

“Private sector involvement in the design, build, finance and maintenance of the PPP section of the Inland Rail programme is critical,” Mr Wankmuller said.

“There is leadership in the private sector that will deliver innovation and results. There is much we can learn from industry and the PPP will allow us to harness their energy, drive and excellence.”

“Queensland will be the biggest beneficiary of Inland Rail with the benefit to the Gross State Product modelled at $7.3 billion during construction and the first 50 years of operation,” he said.

“There will be in the order of 7000 jobs in Queensland during the peak construction period and job creation has already begun to flow to the state with around 190 staff working for Inland Rail in Brisbane including 40 on the PPP component.

“The PPP enables ARTC to access major Australian and multi-national builders and engineers to harness innovative design solutions and more efficient construction methodologies. This is a program of national significance and ARTC is seeking a partner to deliver the most technically-challenging section comprising approximately 130km of dual gauge rail, significant earthworks and complicated tunnels and bridges through the Toowoomba, Little Liverpool and Teviot ranges.”

Mr Wankmuller said the Registration of Interest process was consistent with recent market practices for large infrastructure projects including the Melbourne Metro and Cross River Rail PPP projects.

“The ROI process allows ARTC to confirm the likely bidding field for the PPP while also signalling to the market that we are making progress on the procurement process ahead of the formal Expressions of Interest process in early 2019,” he said.

“This will allow those companies interested in the project to progress discussions with contractors, financiers and advisers. “The ROI also forms a precursor to a planned market sounding process in the fourth quarter of this year. Outcomes of the market sounding process will help to shape our procurement approach, and it’s a good opportunity for potential bidders to provide feedback about the project.”
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Thursday, 04 October 2018

ARTC seeks partner for Queensland Inland Rail projects

A Registration of Interest (ROI) process for a Public Private Partnership (PPP) to build an iconic section of the Inland Rail is set to deliver significant innovation in Queensland.

Inland Rail Chief Executive Officer Richard Wankmuller said Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) is continuing to gauge market appetite for the once-in-a-generation opportunity to deliver the Inland Rail PPP section from Gowrie near Toowoomba to Kagaru near Brisbane.

“Private sector involvement in the design, build, finance and maintenance of the PPP section of the Inland Rail programme is critical,” Mr Wankmuller said.

“There is leadership in the private sector that will deliver innovation and results. There is much we can learn from industry and the PPP will allow us to harness their energy, drive and excellence.”

“Queensland will be the biggest beneficiary of Inland Rail with the benefit to the Gross State Product modelled at $7.3 billion during construction and the first 50 years of operation,” he said.

“There will be in the order of 7000 jobs in Queensland during the peak construction period and job creation has already begun to flow to the state with around 190 staff working for Inland Rail in Brisbane including 40 on the PPP component.

“The PPP enables ARTC to access major Australian and multi-national builders and engineers to harness innovative design solutions and more efficient construction methodologies. This is a program of national significance and ARTC is seeking a partner to deliver the most technically-challenging section comprising approximately 130km of dual gauge rail, significant earthworks and complicated tunnels and bridges through the Toowoomba, Little Liverpool and Teviot ranges.”

Mr Wankmuller said the Registration of Interest process was consistent with recent market practices for large infrastructure projects including the Melbourne Metro and Cross River Rail PPP projects.

“The ROI process allows ARTC to confirm the likely bidding field for the PPP while also signalling to the market that we are making progress on the procurement process ahead of the formal Expressions of Interest process in early 2019,” he said.

“This will allow those companies interested in the project to progress discussions with contractors, financiers and advisers. “The ROI also forms a precursor to a planned market sounding process in the fourth quarter of this year. Outcomes of the market sounding process will help to shape our procurement approach, and it’s a good opportunity for potential bidders to provide feedback about the project.”
bingley hall
Mr Wankmuller. What an appropriate name.
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

anyone who believes that a PPP will deliver the below

“There is leadership in the private sector that will deliver innovation and results. There is much we can learn from industry and the PPP will allow us to harness their energy, drive and excellence.”


is either completely ignorant of the delays and excessive costs ( and profits guaranteed by the taxpayer , ie you and me  )  that previous PPPs have "delivered" or has a vested financial interest in the outcome.

Without substantial financial guarantees to "risk taking investors" PPPs have as much chance of achieving the above as I have of growing wings and flying to Alaska.

Regards, Radioman.
  neillfarmer Train Controller

Hello All,

anyone who believes that a PPP will deliver the below

“There is leadership in the private sector that will deliver innovation and results. There is much we can learn from industry and the PPP will allow us to harness their energy, drive and excellence.”


is either completely ignorant of the delays and excessive costs ( and profits guaranteed by the taxpayer , ie you and me  )  that previous PPPs have "delivered" or has a vested financial interest in the outcome.

Without substantial financial guarantees to "risk taking investors" PPPs have as much chance of achieving the above as I have of growing wings and flying to Alaska.

Regards, Radioman.
Radioman
You have translated the press release incorrectly. My translation is "we don't know how to do this bit of the project and we are hoping somebody else will carry all the risks and do it for us".
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Hello All,

anyone who believes that a PPP will deliver the below

“There is leadership in the private sector that will deliver innovation and results. There is much we can learn from industry and the PPP will allow us to harness their energy, drive and excellence.”


is either completely ignorant of the delays and excessive costs ( and profits guaranteed by the taxpayer , ie you and me  )  that previous PPPs have "delivered" or has a vested financial interest in the outcome.

Without substantial financial guarantees to "risk taking investors" PPPs have as much chance of achieving the above as I have of growing wings and flying to Alaska.

Regards, Radioman.
You have translated the press release incorrectly. My translation is "we don't know how to do this bit of the project and we are hoping somebody else will carry all the risks and do it for us".
neillfarmer
Agreed.

A PPP is just another way* of saying outsourced, with a different risk sharing arrangement due to the unpredictability of the work.  Its not like making a million shirts in Bangladesh...

ARTC is not in the business of building tunnels, so they want someone to enter the project who is that can help out.



*PPP is very much a marketing device used by governments and I suspect that, given they were first initiated back in the 80s/90s the term was used to avoid outsourcing that would have set the unions off....
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

I think that might be oversimplifying a little. In a “traditional” outsourcing arrangement, there’s a contract to perform services for an agreed price. This means virtually all the risk falls on the contractor, and the reward to the contractor is minimal even if the work is superior to the agreed standard.

A PPP attempts to shift reward to the contractor and risk to the state. The effects are predictably disastrous for the taxpayer when things go south - and we now have plenty of examples of this occurring, so it’s not the “black swan event” that the original proponents of these schemes suggested.

Fortunately more sophisticated PPPs are developing, so I think it would be foolish to dismiss them outright. Whether or not the new generation of contracts are successful, only time will tell.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
I think that might be oversimplifying a little. In a “traditional” outsourcing arrangement, there’s a contract to perform services for an agreed price. This means virtually all the risk falls on the contractor, and the reward to the contractor is minimal even if the work is superior to the agreed standard.

A PPP attempts to shift reward to the contractor and risk to the state. The effects are predictably disastrous for the taxpayer when things go south - and we now have plenty of examples of this occurring, so it’s not the “black swan event” that the original proponents of these schemes suggested.

Fortunately more sophisticated PPPs are developing, so I think it would be foolish to dismiss them outright. Whether or not the new generation of contracts are successful, only time will tell.
potatoinmymouth
Agreed.  I was keeping it simple.  

Outsourcing relies on the ability of the contractor (ARTC) knowing how the contractee is performing and being able to monitor it.  How can ARTC know that a tunnel contractor is doing a good job?  They get around this by using a PPP and specifying the monitoring contract with the proponent based on a different risk sharing profile.  Previous attempts have failed to specify this contract property and as you say, reward to the contractor and risk to the state.  That is just because the state has been stupid/negligent in its drafting and probably due to politics getting in the way rather than sound business and financial decision making being performed.

Its still outsourcing, but different insofar as risk transfer is specified.
  cootanee Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting for the sky to fall, the seas to rise... and seeing a train on the SSFL!
This long document deals with issues raised over the Narromine to Narrabri section. Not through my farm?

https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ehq-production-australia/f5cea29f9d135fb48bc1fab34ff6b168229fd18a/documents/attachments/000/090/807/original/NSW_N2N_Inland_Rail_responses_to_NSWF_questions_October_2018.pdf?1540352746
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Yep definitely a NIMBY case.

We live in a selfish world no one cares about the greater benefit of all.

Hope the ARTC and Government grow a pair and stick to their plan that uses the fastest/most cost effective and practical route.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Latest proposed ARTC alignment between Gowrie and Kagaru. Eleven crossing loops have been allowed for and a triangular junction with the ARTC's North Coast Line. A 6.1km long tunnel through the Great Dividing Range, a 1.1km long tunnel through the Little Liverpool Range and a 1.1km long tunnel through the Teviot Range.

https://artc.mysocialpinpoint.com.au/g2k?fbclid=IwAR0MqSLoIfmVEyJIbMIoiyzaweqBF95zWykf-Uk_9glIjvJUqxhv7xwwK4I#/

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