Auscision Models Blog

 
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
ah ha, the 4 missing/unannounced container's are side loaders. 19 are available to order but 23 were on display in the cabinet at the June exhibition. zoom in and you'll quickly spot 3 very obvious white ones and an extra blue.
Poath Junction
Zoomed in but can't make out any details due to pixelation of the image.  Therefore I am none the wiser.  Tease ……   Sad

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  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
TNT should be easy enough to read even if the white/orange body isn't a giveaway. Searoad blue a bit more difficult. Royal Wolf white, ok that needs a better pic Smile
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


"These aren't the unannounced 48' containers you were looking for. Move along, move along...". via https://www.facebook.com/auscisionmodels/photos/pcb.1904925346208061/1904918726208723/?type=3&theater where its been in plain view for two months!
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

HI

And also the two other 40 footers released last week.
  qldchook Locomotive Fireman

Help..

Has anybody experienced issues or problems with their non sound 48 class after fitting a DCC decoder. I am having problems with the headlights and marker lights not functioning as they should. I have tried two different 21 pin decoders 8 function without success. The loco seems to run on the track fine but headlights and marker lights do not change with direction. Any advice?
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Sounds like your decoder is not set up correctly. There is a group on Facebook called DCC Downunder who have quite a few DCC gurus as members who I’m sure would be able to advise you on how to resolve your decoder issues.
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Help..

Has anybody experienced issues or problems with their non sound 48 class after fitting a DCC decoder. I am having problems with the headlights and marker lights not functioning as they should. I have tried two different 21 pin decoders 8 function without success. The loco seems to run on the track fine but headlights and marker lights do not change with direction. Any advice?
qldchook

Mine's the same.  Use function 1 and 2 from memory and they switch.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Help..

Has anybody experienced issues or problems with their non sound 48 class after fitting a DCC decoder. I am having problems with the headlights and marker lights not functioning as they should. I have tried two different 21 pin decoders 8 function without success. The loco seems to run on the track fine but headlights and marker lights do not change with direction. Any advice?
qldchook
Like 2LaGrange said, you'll need to configure the new decoder to suit the lighting outputs.

If you use Decoderpro, that task will be a lot easier than doing it manually via individual CVs.

Personally, I bought 7 sound-equipped 48/830s and they are all sitting on my work bench at this moment.....all have been opened up.....all have been totally "gutted" of their decoder/main board and speaker.

I've installed a KA4 in the area above the front bogie of each loco and I'm awaiting the arrival of 7 new Econami PNP decoders and 7 new Zimo speakers.

Once I'm finished my locos will have NO LIGHTS whatsoever. One less thing to worry about. Just my personal taste.

Roachie
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Like 2LaGrange said, you'll need to configure the new decoder to suit the lighting outputs.

If you use Decoderpro, that task will be a lot easier than doing it manually via individual CVs.

Personally, I bought 7 sound-equipped 48/830s and they are all sitting on my work bench at this moment.....all have been opened up.....all have been totally "gutted" of their decoder/main board and speaker.

I've installed a KA4 in the area above the front bogie of each loco and I'm awaiting the arrival of 7 new Econami PNP decoders and 7 new Zimo speakers.

Once I'm finished my locos will have NO LIGHTS whatsoever. One less thing to worry about. Just my personal taste.

Roachie
Roachie
Hi Bill,

I am curious.

Why would one buy 7 locos with sound, then remove the chips and replace them with new ones?  The speakers are even going west.  Would it have not made more sense to buy non-DCC versions, then fit DCC chips and speakers?  I can see no benefit from the $700 odd investment.

Happy retrofitting,

John
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
Like 2LaGrange said, you'll need to configure the new decoder to suit the lighting outputs.

If you use Decoderpro, that task will be a lot easier than doing it manually via individual CVs.

Personally, I bought 7 sound-equipped 48/830s and they are all sitting on my work bench at this moment.....all have been opened up.....all have been totally "gutted" of their decoder/main board and speaker.

I've installed a KA4 in the area above the front bogie of each loco and I'm awaiting the arrival of 7 new Econami PNP decoders and 7 new Zimo speakers.

Once I'm finished my locos will have NO LIGHTS whatsoever. One less thing to worry about. Just my personal taste.

Roachie
Hi Bill,

I am curious.

Why would one buy 7 locos with sound, then remove the chips and replace them with new ones?  The speakers are even going west.  Would it have not made more sense to buy non-DCC versions, then fit DCC chips and speakers?  I can see no benefit from the $700 odd investment.

Happy retrofitting,

John
c3526blue
Ahh, yes...hindsight is a wonderful thing and if I had my time over again I wouldn't have paid another $700- for the sound option. I'm facing the same dilemma when the 442 arrive; but I only have 3 of them coming (all sound equipped).

The "problem" is that I find it difficult to master the combining of Soundtraxx and ESU decoders on my layout. It's a bit like the old VHS v Beta video thing in the 70s. Or, Ford v Holden etc.

When these 7 new locos arrived, I spent some time trying to get the first one programmed to be compatible with the rest of my fleet (all of which are Tsunami + Keep Alive equipped).

It's the little things that annoyed me.

The two main ones are

(1) the fact that it is not possible to select SS1 on a ESU decoder, without it actually moving off. I have all my other locos programmed to not move until SS2 is selected. That way, I can dial up a loco on my NCE "hammerhead" move the speed to SS1 and the engine will start up, but the loco won't move off....until I select SS2 or above. It's just the way I do it.

(2) the sound arrangements annoyed me. For the ESU decoder, you MUST press F8 (or you can select an alternative F key) in order to fire-up the prime mover sounds. Okay, so picture this. I have a Traino 44 class with Tsunami which I want to double head with a ESU equipped 48 class..... I reverse the 44 onto the 48....the 44 is "noisy"....the 48 is quiet. So, I couple them up, form-up the "consist" and I now have the 44 "noisy" but the 48 is still "quiet". Buggar...I forgot to select the 48 before hand and press F8 to get it's prime mover sounds to fire-up. No worries, I'll just press F8 now and that'll fire-up the 48's sound files. BUGGAR!! Pressing F8 not only turned on the sound of the 48, it also turned the sounds of the 44 OFF. So, now I've got a noisy 48 and a dead 44!!! GGRRRRR..

Yes, I know, these are first world problems and some poor little fella in southern Africa is dying from starvation.

So, to keep my blood pressure under control, I'm switching them all over. I've already sold the ESU decoders for almost as much as the new decoders/speakers are costing.

The Auscsion speakers didn't turn me on. They were large but lacked the good sound quality that you can get with a smaller sugar cube speaker.

I value operational qualities MUCH MUCH higher than I would ever value the various lighting options a loco can offer. Hence my desire to fit Keep Alives to all my locos.

I may get in touch with Auscision and ask that they alter my 442 class order back to non-sound versions....or I may just leave it and do the same with them when they arrive. Not sure yet.

Roachie
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
  tasrail Moderator

Location: Hobart
Has anybody experienced issues or problems with their non sound 48 class after fitting a DCC decoder.
qldchook
Yep. I've put a couple of NCE D16MTC decoders in three locos and even after remapping not all lights will turn off. Changed one loco temporarily to a ESU LokPilot decoder and different lights wouldn't even turn on. I'll probably just start modifying the wiring harness sometime to get the combination that matches what the GA says I need
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Did you read the instructions supplied with the model ? If you have a DC loco and are putting a decoder in you need to move the wiring plug for lighting from the DC socket on board to the DCC socket on board then you will have no issues with lighting control. No need to do any mods to wiring. Pays to read instructions. Mine work perfectly with TCS decoders.
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Ahh, yes...hindsight is a wonderful thing and if I had my time over again I wouldn't have paid another $700- for the sound option. I'm facing the same dilemma when the 442 arrive; but I only have 3 of them coming (all sound equipped).

The "problem" is that I find it difficult to master the combining of Soundtraxx and ESU decoders on my layout. It's a bit like the old VHS v Beta video thing in the 70s. Or, Ford v Holden etc.

When these 7 new locos arrived, I spent some time trying to get the first one programmed to be compatible with the rest of my fleet (all of which are Tsunami + Keep Alive equipped).

It's the little things that annoyed me.

The two main ones are

(1) the fact that it is not possible to select SS1 on a ESU decoder, without it actually moving off. I have all my other locos programmed to not move until SS2 is selected. That way, I can dial up a loco on my NCE "hammerhead" move the speed to SS1 and the engine will start up, but the loco won't move off....until I select SS2 or above. It's just the way I do it.

(2) the sound arrangements annoyed me. For the ESU decoder, you MUST press F8 (or you can select an alternative F key) in order to fire-up the prime mover sounds. Okay, so picture this. I have a Traino 44 class with Tsunami which I want to double head with a ESU equipped 48 class..... I reverse the 44 onto the 48....the 44 is "noisy"....the 48 is quiet. So, I couple them up, form-up the "consist" and I now have the 44 "noisy" but the 48 is still "quiet". Buggar...I forgot to select the 48 before hand and press F8 to get it's prime mover sounds to fire-up. No worries, I'll just press F8 now and that'll fire-up the 48's sound files. BUGGAR!! Pressing F8 not only turned on the sound of the 48, it also turned the sounds of the 44 OFF. So, now I've got a noisy 48 and a dead 44!!! GGRRRRR..

Yes, I know, these are first world problems and some poor little fella in southern Africa is dying from starvation.

So, to keep my blood pressure under control, I'm switching them all over. I've already sold the ESU decoders for almost as much as the new decoders/speakers are costing.

The Auscsion speakers didn't turn me on. They were large but lacked the good sound quality that you can get with a smaller sugar cube speaker.

I value operational qualities MUCH MUCH higher than I would ever value the various lighting options a loco can offer. Hence my desire to fit Keep Alives to all my locos.

I may get in touch with Auscision and ask that they alter my 442 class order back to non-sound versions....or I may just leave it and do the same with them when they arrive. Not sure yet.

Roachie
Roachie

Hi Bill, thankyou, that explains much, and reinforces my concerns regarding producers (importers) and the varying chip manufacturers using the same CV's for different functions.

One can put up with this when running the same or same chipped (read same CVs) models, but put two different chips together in a consist and chaos!

For example, try a (QSI) Eureka D50 and a (ESU) SRM SMR 10 Class.  One would need to revise a host of CV's.  I don't think that it would be worth the effort.  Keep the two apart (as they should be).

Happy chipping,

John
  qldchook Locomotive Fireman

Did you read the instructions supplied with the model ? If you have a DC loco and are putting a decoder in you need to move the wiring plug for lighting from the DC socket on board to the DCC socket on board then you will have no issues with lighting control. No need to do any mods to wiring. Pays to read instructions. Mine work perfectly with TCS decoders.
2LaGrange
Hi 2LaGrange,

What type of TCS decoder did you use?
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: Writing Rail Express articles in praise of my railway employer.
It sounds like a whole stack of people didn’t read the supplied instructions and started ripping our boards and wires instead...

I don’t know if that can be attributed to being a fault with the model.
  Roachie Chief Commissioner

Location: Kadina SA (formerly NSW)
It sounds like a whole stack of people didn’t read the supplied instructions and started ripping our boards and wires instead...

I don’t know if that can be attributed to being a fault with the model.
The_trolley
As far as I know, I'm the only drongo who's "started ripping our boards and wires"  from all 7 of my new locos.

I cannot stress strongly enough....I didn't do this because of any fault with the decoders... They are brilliant devices.

It was purely my own personal choice as I said above. I just found these decoders to be too difficult (impossible) to program to match the characteristics of the Soundtraxx decoders I use in all my other locos.

Roachie
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
48' and 20' side-door Containers now showing as available:

48 Foot Containers

20 Foot Side Door Containers
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

I've found the unannounced sideloaders & 48'ers. 4 x sideload (TNT, TNT, Searoad, dual logo Royalwolf/Aurizon) and 6 x 48's (Toll, Unit48, Royal Wolf, Mayne, NQX, Woolworths)
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Cars are here! http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/Vehicles.htm
  Lazarus Train Controller

Location: Missouri, USA
Cars are here! http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/Vehicles.htm
Poath Junction
Just saw these posted on Facebook and ordered some. They look pretty good, so hopefully if they're popular, they'll do some other models.
  meh Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Cars are here! http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/Vehicles.htm
Poath Junction

Some have made quips about them being expensive.

Looking online at US-outline cars, Auscisions version are actually very reasonable and dare I say cheap. (comparing die-cast to die-cast; plastic cars will obviously be cheaper but are much less detailed). Am keen to see them face-to-face to see the detail; but from the photos they looks fantastic.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Cars are here! http://www.auscisionmodels.com.au/Vehicles.htm

Some have made quips about them being expensive.

Looking online at US-outline cars, Auscisions version are actually very reasonable and dare I say cheap. (comparing die-cast to die-cast; plastic cars will obviously be cheaper but are much less detailed). Am keen to see them face-to-face to see the detail; but from the photos they looks fantastic.
meh
They are expensive for what they were built for!  
When you want to model a prototype car train of more than a few vehicles, they are bl00dy expensive!!
If you want to plant a few cars around your layout, they are ok. And look much better than the $20 Road Ragers, for sure!

Auscisions car wagons need an alternative, and according to Mr Badger, one was available!
One way was to sell two strings of cars made of a few pieces. The bottom half with wheels including chocks and interiors. The tops were clear plastic bodies of three types. sedan, wagon, ute and panel van (if built) These were to be randomly placed on the 4 car bottom piece. Perhaps minor mods such as picking out bumper bars and silver hub caps and removing back seats to place ute body. Perhaps the models could be separated to make individual cars fot the layout?

The costly part was decorating the bodies in several colours and marking out lights and grills.

According to my source they could retail at $50 a set (8 vehs that is two sets of 4) be a hell of a lot easier to install. Look just as good and cost less than the wagon to populate.

As it is, and buying 120 vehicles in bulk Auscision expect me to pay about $1700 extra to form a 17 vehicle Ford train as running Melb to Sydney in the 70's.
That is pretty much insane!
Cheers
Rod
  Just The Tip Locomotive Fireman

Location: Danger zone
Well Rod, if they could be made cheaper and as you described - you'd think someone would have jumped on the chance and be rolling in the (slightly less) cash by now?

How long have the car carriers been available for?...





Cough...
  lkernan Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I agree they're expensive .... because I only wanted a couple and started padding out the order with other stuff!

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