Beaudesert

 
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
This thread is mainly relating to the line from Bethania to Beaudesert. Some locations are also discussed on the Tamborine thread eg the Buccan Ballast Pit supplied ballast to both lines and Logan Village was on both lines. Some stations have changes names eg Kara Kara Junction became Bethania Junction then Bethania. Location known as Lahey's sawmill was termed that in 1954 QR documents although Laheys sold the Beaudesert mill to Pattersons of Toowong in 1948 and sold again six years later to the Enrights, its current owners.

Currently sorting out the various private sidings north of Beaudesert township and so far I think the key is the Helen St level crossing which is shown on the 1950 level crossing list as 46 miles 73 chains. Thus Lahey’s sawmill points, 46 m 71 chains, was two chains north of the Helen St level crossing, Buchanan's Siding, 47 m 2 ch, was 9 chains south of the Helen St level crossing and the milk factory, 47m 16 ch, was 23 chains south of the Helen St level crossing. There was a water pumping plant at the 46 mile site. This had a stationary loco and was mentioned in the 1962 ARHS Bulletin article. That pumping site would be 73 chains or 1606 yards north of the Helen St level crossing. Hairyleg has a small red spur there but no mention in John Kerr’s notes but it is mentioned P.24 of Destination South Brisbane.

Imperial Measurement conversion; The British imperial measurement system used miles and chains. 1 Mile is 1.61 Kilometres. There are 80 chains in a mile. One chain is 66 feet or 22 yards or 20.12 metres. A standard cricket pitch is one chain long.

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  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
A former QR flat wagon was seen doing service as a footbridge over a ditch at the Logan Village QR site, although the wagon as a bridge is blocked off from pedestrians for repairs. The Logan Village wagon was coded PFO but the paint was not too clear but the number was 35734. It also had WPOO T7.96 on the opposite end of the same side as the wagon number and types of lines allowed to use. It had a tare of 18.9t and was allowed to carry 42.8t on S & A lines.

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  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Have enjoyed these books which include material on the Beaudesert line's history. My copies from the local libraries;
two Barefoot in Logan Village: tales of life on the Logan: ananecdotal and oral history of the Logan Village District by Doreen Wendt-Weir [Born 1928], published 2003.

Logan River Tinnie Trail: a heritage trail along the LoganRiver / by Mary Howells; illustrated by Darren Johnson. Published by Logan City, Qld 2003
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Beaudesert line map outbound from around Jimboomba 1888. Seems Jimboomba was at the junction of what is now Camp Cable Rd and Beaudesert Rd in 1888 which means it is one of the towns that has moved over time of which there seems to have been a few in Australia. Line labelled as the Upper Logan Railway. 8MB file size

https://geospatial.information.qld.gov.au/arcgisoutput/cadscans/cad-map-40chn-moreton-ag2-sh8-south-1888.jpg

This is the 1889 Station list from the Government Gazette http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk478/petanoz/All%20Coolangatta%20Tweed%20Line%20images/SCL-TT-1889_zps6d383f44.jpg
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Beaudesert line marked as well on these maps including the Buccan Ballast Pit.

Trinder Park to Yatala and Logan Village parish map dated 1916 and 10MB in size https://geospatial.information.qld.gov.au/arcgisoutput/cadscans/cad-map-40chn-moreton-ag2-sh5-south-1916.jpg

Trinder Park to Yatala and Logan Village parish map dated 1927 and 8.8MB in size https://geospatial.information.qld.gov.au/arcgisoutput/cadscans/cad-map-40chn-moreton-ag2-sh5-south-1927.jpg
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Buccan was the station between Waterford and Logan Village. Some local history books state the QR fettler's cottage from Buccan is at the Logan Village museum. Trouble is a very recent site check at the museum revealed all buildings have individual signs identifying their source and none were QR. Anyone have more on this mystery, please?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Since the QLDglobe https://data.qld.gov.au/dataset/queensland-globe shows property boundaries (yellow lines) which help locate level crossings and rail routes, I did the old Buccan level crossing as the gap in the property boundaries is the old level crossing.

http://s311.photobucket.com/user/petanoz/media/Beaudesert/Stegemann-Rd-QLDglobe_zpsru5jj50i.jpg.html

No structural remains of the QR Buccan Station were noticed at the site 2014. The western 40 meters of Stegemann Rd are now realigned to give a new junction with Waterford Tamborine Rd.  In an earlier time that western end of Stegemann Rd turned south for about 100 meters beside the railway then turned west to cross the railway and join Waterford Tamborine Rd. Some parts of the old road alignment remained in 2014 and are visible on google earth.

Looking south from the new Stegemann Rd junction with Waterford Tamborine Rd http://s311.photobucket.com/user/petanoz/media/Beaudesert/Buccan-looking-south_zpsfb1eab63.jpg.html

Looking north from the old level crossing with the Stegemann Rd remnants in the foreground http://s311.photobucket.com/user/petanoz/media/Beaudesert/Buccan-looking-north_zpsa9935fed.jpg.html
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: WW1 ended with Treaty of Versailles 28 June 1919
Beaudesert line 1917 track profiles which also show track gang areas, courtesy QLD State Archives (QSA) at Runcorn and I included the QSA data slip in my photo. The location names on each are only a guide to the region covered. These are part of a series on the lines from South Brisbane when it was a terminus. Others will eventually appear in threads on their own lines; Tweed Heads / Southport, Cleveland, Canungra, Beaudesert, Gabba and wharf line, Belmont Tramway and the Yeerongpilly / Corinda line.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByB-ppGeDyvwOVQ3OVBXVjJ3NzQ
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I drove the line yesterday and will endeavour to place the photos online here in the next few days.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Drove past Logan Village last night. The road has been widened and now the former ROW west of Logan Village yard is now defunct.
  barryc Chief Train Controller

Location: Waiting for a train to Canungra
I have often wondered who owns the line now. The land underneath it belongs to the State via Queensland Transport but what about the rails, bridges and sleepers.

As mentioned previously in this thread, the line is broken at Stegemann Road. It has long been broken at Quinzeh Creek Road and it has been finally lifted at the crossing of Waterford - Tamborine Road as a result of the roadwork between Yarrabilba and a new traffic jam being constructed in Logan Village.

The current version of the Brisbane Metropolitan System Map only shows a stub of non QR track past signal BT10 at Bethania which I check every time I go past it in the train.  It always shows a red indication. I wonder why QR waste the electricity on it?
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: no longer in Sydney
I have often wondered who owns the line now. The land underneath it belongs to the State via Queensland Transport but what about the rails, bridges and sleepers.

As mentioned previously in this thread, the line is broken at Stegemann Road. It has long been broken at Quinzeh Creek Road and it has been finally lifted at the crossing of Waterford - Tamborine Road as a result of the roadwork between Yarrabilba and a new traffic jam being constructed in Logan Village.

The current version of the Brisbane Metropolitan System Map only shows a stub of non QR track past signal BT10 at Bethania which I check every time I go past it in the train.  It always shows a red indication. I wonder why QR waste the electricity on it?
barryc
As to who owns the old ROW now, it would probably have been offered to adjoining landowners when the line was closed officially as a strip of land would not have been of much use outside of built up areas.
  jibbonpoint Chief Commissioner

Location: Shoalhaven
I drove through the area last week on the annual relatives reconnoitre. I did myself no favours by doing no research before leaving Moree for Tweed Heads but did stop in a few towns for a look. Kalbar had a street called Railway: a dead giveaway; but nothing there so nothing to miss. Harrisville interesting. Some nice photo's in the Pub and several carriages in the grounds used for accommodation so they will be preserved. The foods good in the bottom pub as well. I'll stick some photo's up later. (Although this thread is Beadesert so perhaps OT.)
  cuthbert Train Controller

Most people you meet in Beaudesert are quite friendly. I think this has something to do with the lack of passenger trains and the related grubs that orbit active passenger train stations. The only "artwork" you see there is coming from Victoria on the white train and that is well out of town.
  barryc Chief Train Controller

Location: Waiting for a train to Canungra
I drove through the area last week on the annual relatives reconnoitre. I did myself no favours by doing no research before leaving Moree for Tweed Heads but did stop in a few towns for a look. Kalbar had a street called Railway: a dead giveaway; but nothing there so nothing to miss. Harrisville interesting. Some nice photo's in the Pub and several carriages in the grounds used for accommodation so they will be preserved. The foods good in the bottom pub as well. I'll stick some photo's up later. (Although this thread is Beadesert so perhaps OT.)
jibbonpoint
Kalbar was on the Mt Edwards branch which was touted to be part of the Via Recta, a line running from Ipswich to Warwick which would avoid the Toowoomba Range.  It would have joined the Maryvale branch which junctioned at Warwick.

There was a bridge still visible from the road just outside Kalbar last time I was there which was about ten years ago.
  Rodo Chief Commissioner

Location: Southern Riverina
I drove through the area last week on the annual relatives reconnoitre. I did myself no favours by doing no research before leaving Moree for Tweed Heads but did stop in a few towns for a look. Kalbar had a street called Railway: a dead giveaway; but nothing there so nothing to miss. Harrisville interesting. Some nice photo's in the Pub and several carriages in the grounds used for accommodation so they will be preserved. The foods good in the bottom pub as well. I'll stick some photo's up later. (Although this thread is Beadesert so perhaps OT.)
Kalbar was on the Mt Edwards branch which was touted to be part of the Via Recta, a line running from Ipswich to Warwick which would avoid the Toowoomba Range.  It would have joined the Maryvale branch which junctioned at Warwick.

There was a bridge still visible from the road just outside Kalbar last time I was there which was about ten years ago.
barryc
There are a few remanants of the Boonah and Mt Edwards branches. A trestle crossing Salt Creek and the road near Boonah is one.

The Via Recta line  would have crossed the Dividing Range at Spicers Gap, a higher crossing than at Toowoomba.
A more difficult route than the Toowomba route I say. The highway crossing at Cunninghams Gap is about the same height.

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