City of Yarra reduces speed limit to 30 km/h

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Announced last night Yarra Council has taken $200k from the TAC and decided to reduce the speed limit from 40 to 30 in the inner north around Fitzroy and Collingwood.  

The trial is for 12 months.  

It will be faster to walk.

What are the benefits as these will now be the slowest roads in Australia.

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The headline should read "Socialist Republic of City of Yarra does something stupid... again".
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
"reducing speed will reduce accident" -   But won't as it increase frustration.  And will not stop an accident if the person does not see the car/person/tree/pole in time. We know the formular they use, but still if the driver's attention is  keeping to the speed limit, they are not looking !

( and is this limit applicable to bikes too ? )

You can hurt/kill at 1km/hr

Still, we shall see.

Regards,
David Head
  RedEyeExpress Locomotive Fireman

When they say it's a 'trial' they mean they've already decided it's going to be permanent.
  RedEyeExpress Locomotive Fireman

When they say it's a 'trial' they mean they've already decided it's going to be permanent.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
This is my old hood and this trial was announced a while back. The trial is only in the area bounded by Alexander Pde, Hoddle St, Johnston St and Nicholson St (does not include those streets only the smaller streets within that boundary)

And because streets like Smith St and Brunswick St are VicRoads controlled they are not included either. Now sure about Wellington St.

BG
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
The headline should read "Socialist Republic of City of Yarra does something stupid... again".
"don_dunstan"
I live in the City of Yarra. What do you know that I don't?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
When they say it's a 'trial' they mean they've already decided it's going to be permanent.
RedEyeExpress

Read about this today.  Just stupid and what is it they are trying to achieve?  

The article states it is designed to permit more cycling.  How does that work?
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The headline should read "Socialist Republic of City of Yarra does something stupid... again".
I live in the City of Yarra. What do you know that I don't?
Valvegear
What, that it's run by former communists and tree-hugging greenies who've never had a job in their lives? Everyone knows that.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: no longer in Sydney
When they say it's a 'trial' they mean they've already decided it's going to be permanent.

Read about this today.  Just stupid and what is it they are trying to achieve?  

The article states it is designed to permit more cycling.  How does that work?
bevans
Reduce the speed and there is less need for Cycle Lanes then as less speed differential.

Its not like the affected streets are busy roads, pretty much all residential with the traffic local - apart from the occasional rat runner.
  michaelgm Assistant Commissioner

At 30kph, drivers will be able to read/send longer text messages and still cover the same distance. As at 50kph.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
At 30kph, drivers will be able to read/send longer text messages and still cover the same distance. As at 50kph.
michaelgm
I must be the only person I know who doesn't ever touch their phone while driving, I put it in the centre console and leave it there until I'm parked again.

One of my favourite things at traffic lights is to have a look around and see who is playing with their phones... it's astonishing the sheer numbers of people who do.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This is the same council who banned Australia Day.
  michaelgm Assistant Commissioner

At 30kph, drivers will be able to read/send longer text messages and still cover the same distance. As at 50kph.
I must be the only person I know who doesn't ever touch their phone while driving, I put it in the centre console and leave it there until I'm parked again.

One of my favourite things at traffic lights is to have a look around and see who is playing with their phones... it's astonishing the sheer numbers of people who do.
don_dunstan
I have never broken the law in relation to phone use, whilst driving. Actually don't even have one.
On one occasion the Mrs dialed the number, stuck the ear piece in my ear and I dealt with an urgent banking issue. The most distracted and uncomfortable I've ever felt behind the wheel.

As for observing drivers on phones, if lane wandering, stationary at a green light, sure bet
  SinickleBird Train Controller

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
From the few times I have travelled along Hoddle Street, I think motorists would be quite happy to get up to 30 km/hr during daylight hours.

Surely council has bigger issues to grapple with. Like saving the rare lichen that grows on the rooftop of the town hall. Or whether to include black and brown on the rainbow flag.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
From the few times I have travelled along Hoddle Street, I think motorists would be quite happy to get up to 30 km/hr during daylight hours.

Surely council has bigger issues to grapple with. Like saving the rare lichen that grows on the rooftop of the town hall. Or whether to include black and brown on the rainbow flag.
SinickleBird

Not sure it includes hoodle street as this belongs to Vicroads.  it is the roads north/south to the west of Hoodle Street.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: no longer in Sydney
With the number of Roundabouts, Stop and Give Way signs in those streets, I would be surprised if many could exceed the existing limit in any case.

And Valvegear needs more time to cross the street these days on his daily walk down to the local pub - and the traffic needs to be slower so as to have time to avoid him and when he is 'wandering' back home from the pub.Laughing
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
And Valvegear needs more time to cross the street these days on his daily walk down to the local pub - and the traffic needs to be slower so as to have time to avoid him and when he is 'wandering' back home from the pub
"mikesyd"
Well; it's nice to see that somebody cares!Laughing
  marvin Assistant Commissioner

Location: Mars... "The Earth? Oh, the Earth will be gone in just a few seconds!"
Well; it's nice to see that somebody cares!Laughing
Valvegear
Well played, sir!

marvin
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  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The headline should read "Socialist Republic of City of Yarra does something stupid... again".
I live in the City of Yarra. What do you know that I don't?
Valvegear
Current make up of Yarra City Council is

Victorian Greens 4
ALP 2
Independent 2
Victorian Socialists 1

The Socialist is Cr Stephen Jolly. He was one of our Ward councilors when I lived in Yarra. a real on the ground people's representative, it is no wonder he keeps getting elected. I had cause to write to him on a couple of occasions, he got back to me both times and followed up both times without needing any follow up from me. He holds "meet your councilor" sessions regularly outside Safeway Smith St and has done for as long as I can remember. Many people including me would vote for him based on his record rather than his politics, a really good bloke.

BG
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: no longer in Sydney
There are two different views of course - from those who live within (and pay rates) the affected area, and those who don't, who are usually the rat runners trying to avoid the main routes to gain a few minutes and thus have a howl when their run gets restricted.

I suspect that if the limit has been 40 for some time without a revolt from the residents, that there wont be much noise if it comes down another notch.

A few Roundabouts, Speed Bumps and Stop Signs, along with lowered Speeds rids such streets of the rat runners pretty quick. And it seems that Council gets $200K for replacing some signs (which may well swallow up a fair portion of the money too).

My sister lives at the northern edge of the same Municipality, in a narrow street with a 60kmh limit and its downright dangerous to drive down that street at 40, let alone 60.
  Valvegear The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I am not fazed by the 30 limit in many of the streets concerned. A lot of them are extraordinarily narrow, replete with parked cars, cyclists, pedestrians et al.
As mikesyd has correctly pointed out, there are many such streets where 40 is too much, and 60 would be lethal.

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