Dutton -vs- Turnbull

 
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

This morning's poll figures indicate a further disaffection among the Sky News crowd away from the Coalition towards the fringe.  Dutton as leader would probably see a return of many such voters, but at the same time lots of Turnbull supporters might jump ship for Centre Alliance or similar...
Turnbull supporters are already members of The Greens.
Donald
The trouble with Turnbull is that he is a rational person. However, the rational cannot govern the irrational which aptly describe the hard loony right of the Coalition. As for Dutton, no way do I want a simple minded ex copper running this country.

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  Carnot Chief Commissioner

This morning's poll figures indicate a further disaffection among the Sky News crowd away from the Coalition towards the fringe.  Dutton as leader would probably see a return of many such voters, but at the same time lots of Turnbull supporters might jump ship for Centre Alliance or similar...
Turnbull supporters are already members of The Greens.
The trouble with Turnbull is that he is a rational person. However, the rational cannot govern the irrational which aptly describe the hard loony right of the Coalition. As for Dutton, no way do I want a simple minded ex copper running this country.
nswtrains
I think that simple-minded is a bit harsh.  If there's one thing in his favour being an ex-cop, it's the fact he understands human nature in both its good and evil ways.  Most politicians probably lack the discernment or life experience to see this.

As most people here probably know, I'm as socially conservative as they get on some issues, but a Leftie on things like immigration, the environment, Public transport etc.  It makes deciding who to vote for rather difficult, and Dutton won't help if he's a right-wing loon on the latter.

Perhaps the "Fraser Anning" factor is bigger than we think?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
7 News will run a story tonight that Dutton has failed to declare pecuniary interests in child care centres that receive government funding...
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
7 News will run a story tonight that Dutton has failed to declare pecuniary interests in child care centres that receive government funding...
Graham4405
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/20/peter-duttons-business-interests-could-disqualify-him-from-parliament-experts-suggest
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
'Peace in our time' Turnbull, appeasement never works!

The mad dogs of the anything-but-Liberal faction have panicked the sheep. PM Dutton will save his and a few seats in Queensland if they called an early election.

Shorten (oh dear). Labor needs someone who will call this out for what it is and go out to win. Idea
  michaelgm Deputy Commissioner

Mal, has declared leadership position open. Sky news.

Tony's mantra today, hi ho, hi ho, if off to wreck I go.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

As predicted, Dutton didn't have the numbers (48 vs 35).  Off to the back-bench he goes:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/politics-live-malcolm-turnbull-sees-off-peter-dutton-challenge/10146280
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

As predicted, Dutton didn't have the numbers (48 vs 35).  Off to the back-bench he goes:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/politics-live-malcolm-turnbull-sees-off-peter-dutton-challenge/10146280
Carnot
At least he is now rid of Mr Plod from the front bench. I hope Turnbull has the fortitude to call out Abbott who was the prime mover of Mr Plod's challenge. I feel his government is now totally unworkable and a general election should be called ASAP. We might be seeing the destruction of the coalition with the loony right going their own way. I never knew that Sco Mo was a member of that prosperity cult located at Castle Hill NSW. AKA Hill Song. That's enough for me to get rid of them all.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

As predicted, Dutton didn't have the numbers (48 vs 35).  Off to the back-bench he goes:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/politics-live-malcolm-turnbull-sees-off-peter-dutton-challenge/10146280
At least he is now rid of Mr Plod from the front bench. I hope Turnbull has the fortitude to call out Abbott who was the prime mover of Mr Plod's challenge. I feel his government is now totally unworkable and a general election should be called ASAP. We might be seeing the destruction of the coalition with the loony right going their own way. I never knew that Sco Mo was a member of that prosperity cult located at Castle Hill NSW. AKA Hill Song. That's enough for me to get rid of them all.
nswtrains
Nah, he hold off calling an election until his term is complete (if he lasts that long) -  Just like the ALP Govt in 2013.

To be fair Hillsong has quit a lot of their prosperity rubbish in the past few years and Sco Mo is much more moderate than many in the Coalition.  He sits on the middle of the political spectrum to be honest.
  michaelgm Deputy Commissioner

Well, Mal wins round one. Ding ding. Round two. KO.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
...Sco Mo is much more moderate than many in the Coalition.  He sits on the middle of the political spectrum to be honest.
Carnot
Politics is becoming more polarised and voters are responding accordingly. Ignore people on the anti-Turnbull media as they're hardly swinging voters. Turnbull for all the bad publicity was always preferred PM. It was the party that was on the nose.

The goodwill Turnbull had he trashed during the past week. If Morrison took over Labor needs to replace Shorten with someone up to the good fight.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Meanwhile Julie Bishop is bopping along to "I will survive" Smile
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

There was an interesting view expressed. That is, Dutton was acting as a stalking horse for Abbott to test the numbers for an Abbott return in the next couple of weeks.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I can’t see Tony Abbott challenging, I cannot believe that Dutton challenged, he was never going to have anything like the numbers. The party knows that whoever leads into the next election, Turnbull, Abbott, bishop or Dutton, that Dutton would be the least likely to win.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
If Turnbull is rolled later this week say goodbye to government for years. The libs are broke and relied heavily on Turnbull himself for the last federal election.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I can’t see Tony Abbott challenging, I cannot believe that Dutton challenged, he was never going to have anything like the numbers. The party knows that whoever leads into the next election, Turnbull, Abbott, bishop or Dutton, that Dutton would be the least likely to win.
Aaron
In hindsight, Dutton did very well considering MT called a snap vote. As its a public vote, some Dutton supporters would have potentially kept their hands down and history has shown the PM never gets challenged only once and usually dumped on 2nd attempt.

Turnbull cannot win, they know that and will go. Likely resign.

Abbott, won't win either, last thing they will do is repeat Rudd-Gillard-Rudd, so he won't contest

Bishop, won't get PM and if she does, only because no one else wants it. Way to much baggage.

Dutton, Yes, if not your typical PM wanna be personality.

Morrison, realistically he has some baggage but likely will be supported by anti-Dutton, anti-Bishop side and even pro Dutton, pro Bishop side as well. Likely he has best hopes of reducing the election loss, I think he is smart he will bring Abbott back to a senior role as this will win back the large portion of Liberal supporters that were driven away by the way MT treated TA.

As its a three way vote now, Dutton, Bishop and Morrison, the first round of voting could see another Tony Abbott style victory through accidental elimination.

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