Thomas the Tank Engine to get more female and multicultural friends as part of revamp

 

News article: Thomas the Tank Engine to get more female and multicultural friends as part of revamp

Children’s programme Thomas And Friends is to introduce an “inclusive” gender-balanced, multicultural set of characters as part of a revamp.

  BrianBS Locomotive Driver

Can't wait to see the offspring - a diesel/steam hybrid, presumably narrow gauge! I'm sure that there is an example, somewhere.
allan
Yes there is - the London Midland and Scottish railway built a prototype 0-6-0 diesel hydraulic shunter No 1831 in 1931 - it was built on the frames and chassis of a Midland Railway 0-6-0T steam shunting locomotive - it was withdrawn in 1939 and converted into a 'mobile power unit'.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=lms+diesel+shunter+1831&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzk6eQ1qzdAhXUdN4KHTmZB-EQsAR6BAgAEAE&biw=1536&bih=722#imgrc=_

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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I once thought you could have a story about Thomas getting married and Daisy becoming pregnant.

Everyone seems to have missed the true adult theme here while focusing on the titillating adolescent one.  This is a mixed race (steam and diesel) marriage.
Can't wait to see the offspring - a diesel/steam hybrid, presumably narrow gauge! I'm sure that there is an example, somewhere.
allan
Correct! One Did Exist
https://www.lner.info/locos/IC/kitson.php
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/kitson/kitsonst.htm
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

But it would be good if the locomotives still worked for a living.

I think that's the key, Peter. What a lovely post. Change is not to be feared for its own sake.

But the books (and wooden sets!) launched my fascination with railways and if the true-to-life nature of the stories is forgotten, the game will be lost.

There is no Bob the Builder without building, Fireman Sam without putting out fires, and no Thomas without railways.
potatoinmymouth
Hello All,

I thought Bob the Builder was delicensed due to non compliance with OH&S , and for building without a permit ?

it is correct that the Reverend's and later his son's stories were based on actual incidents, which the current licensees appear to have no clue about.

Regards, Radioman.
  n459L1150 Train Controller

Location: at sunbury on a V/line service into melbourne, waiting for thousands of impatient people to get on
BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL SHOW!!!! It was classic and some effort actually went into making sets and engines. Who can go past Ringo Starr narrating?
  M636C Minister for Railways

Thinking back, there was some class consciousness hidden in the Reverend Awdry's scripts...

While the female passenger cars dutifully following the lead of the male locomotives appears to have upset the politically correct, the male goods wagons, the "troublesome trucks" don't seem to have raised any politically correct concern, although the whole idea of grumbling reluctance is suggestive of working class versus middle class conflict ("trouble down 't mill"). So how have the professional complaint brigade managed to miss this obvious putting down of the labouring classes?

How can this be corrected? Container wagons with upper class accents being shown to be out of touch, delivering boxes to the wrong siding?

The mind boggles.....

Peter
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

you could always try Ernest the Engine ( Comedy Inc )  who stutters at the most inappropriate time ( Country ) on YouTube !

Thomas the Tanks class consciousness was sent up years ago, but unfortunately , too many people failed to see the joke !

Regards, Radioman.
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All ,

on a related matter , see Bob Dixon's website (http://www.peace-workshop.freeuk.com/Bob_Dixon.htm ).

He wrote two seminal books, "Catching Them Young - Vol 1 - Sex, Race and Class in Children's Fiction , Vol 2 - Political Ideas in Children's Fiction" ( Pluto Press, UK, 1977 ).

As the books are long out of print ( I bought these two paperbacks when published ) you can read them on the above website.

These books came to my attention due to a newspaper article that pilloried the banning of Enid Blyton books by the ILEA / Inner London Education Authority .

After reading these books , and then reading some of the books quoted , I came to the view that the ILEA was correct in banning these books.

Before you criticise , I suggest you read first, and then make up your mind. Bear in mind that children have no way of evaluating the worth of a book, and all too often parents, like chiidren, are attracted to the pretty pictures, but parents should read and think about the text before purchase.

Another example ( http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-22/bear-finds-a-voice-kids-book-analysis/10002538 ) is worthy of a read.

I think that both of the above articles raises serious issues about children's books that parents need to seriously consider.

Do not misunderstand me, I think children should be encouraged to read, it is a crucial skill, and the earlier children are exposed to books the better. It is also crucial for both parents to read to their children , as it enhances the children's language skills, comprehension and understanding.

My viewpoint is that children are entitled to read, or be read to, books that are of literary and social merit , they should not unwittingly ( or wittingly for that matter ) be exposed to racist , sexist or unduly violent literature.

And if you think this is over the top , some years ago Germany banned "children's books" that praised the activities of the "SS Man" , those paramilitary Nazi murderers , whom , amongst many others, murdered children.

Regards, Radioman.
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
What about making the Australian (SAR) character a different gauge and make a story based on Australia's gauge muddle with their controllers disagreeing?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
What about making the Australian (SAR) character a different gauge and make a story based on Australia's gauge muddle with their controllers disagreeing?
GeoffreyHansen
That loco Can be Converted to SG
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

What about making the Australian (SAR) character a different gauge and make a story based on Australia's gauge muddle with their controllers disagreeing?
That loco Can be Converted to SG
Dangersdan707
Diversity is to be lauded!
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Diversity is to be lauded!
"Lockspike"
Isn't it gauge diversity that created a horrible mess?Embarassed
  Lockspike Deputy Commissioner

Diversity is to be lauded!
Isn't it gauge diversity that created a horrible mess?Embarassed
Valvegear
Agreed(!), but this thread is not about railway operations and engineering, but about TTTE & F becoming very PC.
Concepts of railway operations reinforcing good and respectful behaviour amongst the audience have been totally lost.
  Ethan1395 Junior Train Controller

Location: An OSCar H Set
There it goes again.

Corporations are bending over backside to cater for things such as 'gender diversity' but little to nothing is being done about significant issues in the world such as homelessness and youth unemployment.

Admittedly, Thomas the Tank Engine writers can't do anything about said issues, but there are countless other companies going all in for 'gender diversity', like Melbourne council installing female shaped pedestrian lights on traffic lights? How much money did that cost? how much of that money could have been spent housing homeless and employing young people?

People are happy to shrug off homelessness by claiming that homeless people want that life (with is certainly true for SOME of them, but NOT ALL), and youth unemployment by claiming that young people are lazy (once again, SOME are, but certainly NOT ALL, living off Newstart Allowance for an extended period of time would turn anyone into a model employee),
but say one thing against the LGBT movement, or claim that there are only two genders, and BOOM, you are worse that Hitler and you are a hateful bigot.

What about making the Australian (SAR) character a different gauge and make a story based on Australia's gauge muddle with their controllers disagreeing?
GeoffreyHansen
Would have been a good and humorous idea - and educational about Australian history. I'm surprised the show never mentioned gauge when featuring Australia.

I would like a spin-off of Thomas the Tank Engine based in Newcastle, and as the suburban network slowly gets closed down, Thomas and his friends are split up, and the show could teach the consequences of city-wide car culture.
  Ethan1395 Junior Train Controller

Location: An OSCar H Set
There it goes again.

Corporations are bending over backside to cater for things such as 'gender diversity' but little to nothing is being done about significant issues in the world such as homelessness and youth unemployment.

Admittedly, Thomas the Tank Engine writers can't do anything about said issues, but there are countless other companies going all in for 'gender diversity', like Melbourne council installing female shaped pedestrian lights on traffic lights? How much money did that cost? how much of that money could have been spent housing homeless and employing young people?

People are happy to shrug off homelessness by claiming that homeless people want that life (with is certainly true for SOME of them, but NOT ALL), and youth unemployment by claiming that young people are lazy (once again, SOME are, but certainly NOT ALL, living off Newstart Allowance for an extended period of time would turn anyone into a model employee),
but say one thing against the LGBT movement, or claim that there are only two genders, and BOOM, you are worse that Hitler and you are a hateful bigot.

What about making the Australian (SAR) character a different gauge and make a story based on Australia's gauge muddle with their controllers disagreeing?
Would have been a good and humorous idea - and educational about Australian history. I'm surprised the show never mentioned gauge when featuring Australia.

I would like a spin-off of Thomas the Tank Engine based in Newcastle, and as the suburban network slowly gets closed down, Thomas and his friends are split up, and the show could teach the consequences of city-wide car culture.

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