V/Line Incidents/Disruptions #2

 
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Re PIMMs post about PTV staff not getting free travel: this used to be the case under VR/Vicrail. When I started working out of Sth Dynon I was given a small metal token about thumb nail sized that entitled me to free travel. I made as much use of it as I could getting to and from work.
I don't know any details of when this ceased but I imagine that Kennett's privatisation would be a fair guess.

Neil

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  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Car vs train in bairnsdale this afternoon. Incident still ongoing. reported as 2 trapped.

http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#!/incident/ESTA:181004216

Train Delay  18:18 Bairnsdale to SCS train is delayed by approximately 90 minutes due to an emergency services request at Bairnsdale. [19:18 05/10]

Service Disruption  18:18 Bairnsdale to Pakenham train will originate from Traralgon with customers from preceding stations to travel per road coach due to an emergency service request [19:40 05/10]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/CrimeWatchVictoria/permalink/1073895346112514/
Galron
Reported to been at Ligar Street level crossing (the first crossing out of Bairnsdale yard)

Train was probably only doing about 40 km/h
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Re PIMMs post about PTV staff not getting free travel: this used to be the case under VR/Vicrail. When I started working out of Sth Dynon I was given a small metal token about thumb nail sized that entitled me to free travel. I made as much use of it as I could getting to and from work. I don't know any details of when this ceased but I imagine that Kennett's privatisation would be a fair guess.
ngarner

The union article I picked this up from actually mentioned that it still exists in some form for Metro and V/Line employees.

In response to John’s comments above, staff discounts are pretty widespread; regardless, I’m not sure the argument applies here when making a profit is clearly not the intention or the obstacle.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Our old friend, "Defective Signals in the Sunbury Area" is back again:
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Our old friend, "Defective Signals in the Sunbury Area" is back again:
Carnot
Ah, I wondered why we stopped between Diggers and Scumbury, I thought it was old mate Congestion but no!

Made it to CME around 7 minutes late after reversing the cross at Elphi - we took the main while the Up Velocity got hung out on the loop line. Worked pretty well, we made up a heap of time (Dn Swan Hill service often stops on the loop to wait for the Up to cross) and it ended up being a running cross so they didn't lose too much time either.

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

V/LINE has been accused of ripping off a local app company’s intellectual property and then offering $10,000 to settle the dispute secretly without admitting fault.

The regional rail operator, a government-owned corporation, has upgraded its app over the past three years to give passengers easy access to real-time information on train services and platforms.

But developers at Melbourne software firm Glass Echidna say they were shocked earlier this year to discover that the improved V/Line app appeared almost identical to their own Go Melbourne Train Timetable software, which they created in 2013.

Co-director Benjamin Dobell said he contacted V/Line and offered to license it to use the technology that Glass Echidna had created.

But he said bureaucrats at the operator denied any wrongdoing. He said they offered $10,000 to settle the matter out of court, on the condition of confidentiality.

Mr Dobell said he chose to refuse the money because he wanted to raise awareness about the problem of infringement of intellectual property in Australia.

“We are a small Victorian business,” he said.

“We’re not interested in being paid off and it’s far too hard as a small company, with three people, to take something like this to court.

“It’s just disappointing that this can happen and I feel a bit like I’ve been taken advantage of,” Mr Dobell said.

He said that while other apps now provided service ­information, they did not look as similar to his product as the one produced by V/Line.

“At the time, it was a unique program, and our designers spent a lot of effort to make it intuitive,” he said.

“I don’t want anything like this to happen to another small company again. “If people want to license technology, they should just do it — that’s why businesses like ours exist,” Mr Dobell said.

A V/Line spokeswoman said the operator had been in confidential correspondence with Glass Echidna since early this year.

She said: “V/Line worked with Vortilla Digital to develop the V/­Line mobile app, and it has been available for passengers and the public to use since 2015.” V/Line has faced harsh criticism from its passengers in recent years. Performance figures show­ed that just 88.2 per cent of regional trains arrived on time in September.
Herald Sun


This is an interesting diversion. I downloaded both apps to have a look for myself and I agree the similarities are way too extensive to be coincidental. Both the visual interface and the actual user experience flow are virtually identical.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Once again it is standing room only on the 16.25 Up from Castlemaine this afternoon. But this time it's not sports fans heading to the Gee but Seniors taking advantage of Seniors Week offers. I know, I know, V/Line doesn't even have enough VLocity sets online to run it's normal timetable let alone to add a set to this counter peak service but it's not a good look for V/Line, this should be a time to promote their services instead we have people sitting in the luggage racks, on the floor and anywhere else they can find.

BG
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
My daughter is currently on the down Albury.   Left SC Station at 7.  Now at Kilmore.   Says she could get out and walk faster than the train.   No explanation.



The trip took 5 hours.   Signalling problems (copper wiring) until Seymour, then a good run to Albury.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Meanwhile, in the real world, far from "fast rail"...

"Signal fault" at Sunshine has all RRL lines in both directions cactus. Nothing has moved for over 40 minutes. There is also talk of Fitzgerald Rd level crossing being stuck down.

Sounds pretty grim. Interlocking failure?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Power problems?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Seems unlikely, Metro reporting good service on the Sunbury... that is, until a spark finds a stuck VLo!
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Werribee routing for some peak Geelong services, Ballarat and Bendigo more or less completely suspended and bustituted.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Werribee routing for some peak Geelong services, Ballarat and Bendigo more or less completely suspended and bustituted.
potatoinmymouth
A bit of an epic-fail just quietly.  Rather ironic for it to happen today....
  DALEK Locomotive Fireman

An update from V/Line:
"Due to the signal fault at Sunshine this afternoon, and the
extreme difficulty in sourcing coaches, customers are asked to source
alternative transport for the remainder of the evening, and defer all
non-essential travel.  V/Line apologises for the inconvenience caused

to our commuters this afternoon. We are working to rectify the issue as quickly
as possible."


Things aren't looking too good for peak hour.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Sunshine signals 557 and 534 have failed in the area of sunshine and on the metro boundary.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
I'm assuming there are no V/Line drivers left who are qualified Southern Cross - Sunshine on the Metro lines? Letting just Bendigo trains through would relieve some pressure of V/Line.

Services resumed at about 6:00, but with many trains being out of place, a lot of the cancellations weren't reinstated.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Meanwhile, in the real world, far from "fast rail"...

"Signal fault" at Sunshine has all RRL lines in both directions cactus. Nothing has moved for over 40 minutes. There is also talk of Fitzgerald Rd level crossing being stuck down.

Sounds pretty grim. Interlocking failure?
potatoinmymouth

Went on for 3 hours and didn't right itself until the 18:23 Ararat on my line.

After decades of occasional delays by defective signals, unruly pax or jumpers, courtesy of the V/Line messaging system I've learned to stay at work until the dust settles.

Mike
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Went on for 3 hours and didn't right itself until the 18:23 Ararat on my line.

After decades of occasional delays by defective signals, unruly pax or jumpers, courtesy of the V/Line messaging system I've learned to stay at work until the dust settles.

Mike
The Vinelander
You disappoint me Grasshopper. I thought that you would have chosen a quiet pint or 3 at Network or one of your other CBD watering holes!

BG
  Jack Clark Beginner

I hear the Sunshine signal fault occurred at 1346 and wasn't rectified until 1656.

The leader board for delays in minutes had some spectacular numbers, the top 5 being:
1337 dn Bacchus Marsh delayed 182 minutes
1255 up Waurn Ponds delayed 175 minutes
1330 dn Waurn Ponds delayed 167 minutes
1226 up Ararat delayed 160 minutes
1335 up Waurn Ponds delayed 158 minutes

The V/Line policy of not training their newer drivers on both the line via Werribee and also the suburban lines in from Sunshine means when the RRL falls over, it usually has a catastrophic impact on the service for the rest of the day.

The on time running figures for Geelong in the PM peak was the low teens, and Ballarat/Bendigo around 25%. And that's on time to 6 minutes or whatever they call on time.

Even those fancy signal fitters utes painted up in V/Line emergency response colours couldn't help this afternoons debacle!!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Here we go again!  Day 2

  jakar Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Here we go again!  Day 2

bevans
Metro train reported to be on fire near/at South Kensington, all trains stopped at Metrols request. On the move again now though.
  jakar Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Sunshine signals 557 and 534 have failed in the area of sunshine and on the metro boundary.
freightgate
If this information is indeed correct, those are Metro's signals protecting the points on the UP side of Sunshine that go from the main suburban lines to the RRL and/or the independent through tracks (the goods lines to Tottenham). Yet another case of a Metro issue affecting V/Line services?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Here we go again!  Day 2

Metro train reported to be on fire near/at South Kensington, all trains stopped at Metrols request. On the move again now though.
jakar
Faulty brakes?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

If this information is indeed correct, those are Metro's signals protecting the points on the UP side of Sunshine that go from the main suburban lines to the RRL and/or the independent through tracks (the goods lines to Tottenham). Yet another case of a Metro issue affecting V/Line services?
jakar

Seems like the rumour may have been dodgy - at no stage was there any delay to Metro services.

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