Sydney Metro track diagrams

 
  Colonel Leon Junior Train Controller

Location:
Hello,

does anyone have access to track diagrams for the Sydney Metro, particularly the Sydney Metro Northwest? similar to these.

Thanks in advance.

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  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

These are awesome, wish they were available in Victoria.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

These are awesome, wish they were available in Victoria.
potatoinmymouth
They are available in Victoria, or do you mean FOR Victoria?
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
SinickleBird
What about OHW sectioning diagrams, which have to clearly show things when sections are isolated?

Also, you do need to know about any intermediate terminals (like North Sydney) in case parts of the system are blocked due to incidents.

There are mini-diagrams showing whereabouts of trains which are visible to the public at stations like Chatswood.

Similarly with the Terminals at Bankstown, and the depot at Whatsis.

Drivers diagrams are needed by non-drivers, after all.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
SinickleBird
The system is driverless, but this doesn't mean its never driven by drivers.

A trip to Vancouver in 2003 Auto system and I was told the first train of the day is manually driven or at least supervised by a competent driver doing a track inspection as part of the daily safety check as the system is shutdown for +5h every night (was then).

I wouldn't be surprised if this system has a similar safety requirement and those people would need to be familiar with the infrastructure, curves, stations etc. Any employee entering the ROW in tunnel and/or surface would be required to know where the emergency exits and many other things are.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
What about OHW sectioning diagrams, which have to clearly show things when sections are isolated?

Also, you do need to know about any intermediate terminals (like North Sydney) in case parts of the system are blocked due to incidents.

There are mini-diagrams showing whereabouts of trains which are visible to the public at stations like Chatswood.

Similarly with the Terminals at Bankstown, and the depot at Whatsis.

Drivers diagrams are needed by non-drivers, after all.
awsgc24
'There are mini-diagrams showing whereabouts of trains which are visible to the public at stations like Chatswood'.

Known as the Train Location System(TLS). Also available on rail employee Apple I Phones.
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
What about OHW sectioning diagrams, which have to clearly show things when sections are isolated?
awsgc24
Those are engineering drawings.  They are done to a certain standard and required by law.  The drivers route knowledge diagrams aren't required by law, they are just a learning tool.
  Matthew Chief Train Controller


A trip to Vancouver in 2003 Auto system and I was told the first train of the day is manually driven or at least supervised by a competent driver doing a track inspection as part of the daily safety check as the system is shutdown for +5h every night (was then).
RTT_Rules


Many automated systems do this - if not for track inspection, to keep operations staff familiar with the whole idea of manual driving.

I've been on the Singapore Circle line early on a Sunday morning and they were manually driving. They did this every Sunday morning so that operations staff (senior station staff, maintenance techs, etc) got actual live practice at this 'degraded' mode of operation, so when the day came they needed to do it in an emergency, the staff are actually familiar with the processes.

Sydney Metro has been set up as a private operation - they may not feel obliged to put the driver route diagrams on railsafe like Railcorp and Sydney Train has. But such documents will certainly be prepared so that persons operating the trains manually have all required knowledge.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

A trip to Vancouver in 2003 Auto system and I was told the first train of the day is manually driven or at least supervised by a competent driver doing a track inspection as part of the daily safety check as the system is shutdown for +5h every night (was then).

Many automated systems do this - if not for track inspection, to keep operations staff familiar with the whole idea of manual driving.

I've been on the Singapore Circle line early on a Sunday morning and they were manually driving. They did this every Sunday morning so that operations staff (senior station staff, maintenance techs, etc) got actual live practice at this 'degraded' mode of operation, so when the day came they needed to do it in an emergency, the staff are actually familiar with the processes.

Sydney Metro has been set up as a private operation - they may not feel obliged to put the driver route diagrams on railsafe like Railcorp and Sydney Train has. But such documents will certainly be prepared so that persons operating the trains manually have all required knowledge.
Matthew
...and I bet in Singapore those certified to drive is almost everyone so that if the automation system was to fail, the entire workforce from CEO down would be hands on driving to keep the trains running while the maintenance guru's worked on the problem.

When we were taught Six Sigma and Lean more than a few years back, also known as the "Toyota Way", the guys went to the Altona plant and they were shown that everyone from site Manager down knows how to do a production role. When asked the answer was these are the only jobs that can have direct impact on the number of cars we make in a day and hence meeting customer requirements and revenue.

Looking at the Sydney diagrams provided by the link from OP (very much appreciated) and remembering back to my commuting days in the 80's on NSL and North main, I'm sure alot of cross overs have removed over the years.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
There is probably no need of drivers’ knowledge diagrams for a driverless system ????
SinickleBird
Suggest a more up-to-date name, such as TLS Diagrams.

Suggest also that "Stock Sidings" be renamed as "TLS Sidings" since Stock trains haven't run for 20 years or so.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
There are mini-diagrams showing whereabouts of trains which are visible to the public at stations like Chatswood'.

Known as the Train Location System(TLS). Also available on rail employee Apple I Phones
nswtrains


The train location system is a Sydney Trains tool, and will not display Sydney Metro (not to be confused with Metropolitan) trains.

The one on the iPhones, however, is a different beast. I’ve been reliably informed that TLS is maintained by the app developer, and so differs slightly from the official one.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There are mini-diagrams showing whereabouts of trains which are visible to the public at stations like Chatswood'.

Known as the Train Location System(TLS). Also available on rail employee Apple I Phones


The train location system is a Sydney Trains tool, and will not display Sydney Metro (not to be confused with Metropolitan) trains.

The one on the iPhones, however, is a different beast. I’ve been reliably informed that TLS is maintained by the app developer, and so differs slightly from the official one.
s3_gunzel

I believe there is an API which provides access to the data.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
There is, but the same issue applies - no metro trains.

The Metro Trains (if they release that real-time feed) will be a seperate dataset.

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