Posted 3 years ago
Or to empty the Treasury.I wonder if the NSW libs will be pushing for the Federal election to happen sooner,ie before the state one so they might have a chance at retaining power in NSW?There was mutterings on something I was watching last night (cant remember which station) that the Feds will hang off as long as possible to give them time to regain Victorian's trust.
This is just for pure entertainment value, just have a listen to the parrot (AKA Alan Jones) and Jeff Kennett, still believing Matthew Guy had a chance, despite what the polls said - https://www.2gb.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-tomorrows-victorian-election/No. Just no. I had to sit through a training day where Jeff was the headline speaker, and everyone else fawned over him about his “visionary changes” to local Government were. I couldn't listen to two of them..
DD, if you're concerned about an LNP opposition, then you must be convinced that the charismatic Member for Maribinong? The honourable Bill Shorten will be the next PM.This will be the second time in less than ten years that voters will chuck a government they hate out rather than elect a credible opposition - it's not a good situation and it's terrible for our democracy if there's no effective opposition party to the government of the day no matter who they are.
No fear, Chris Bowen will be treasurer, and surely Wayne Swan will be on speed dial.
Financial minister of the year, 2011.
And if Scomo needs a hand to move from the lodge, I can help.
I don't have enough swear-words for how disappointed I am with the decision of the LNP to make that man PM - he's going to consign them to at least two terms in the wilderness - if they manage to survive the next election full-stop.Again your lament is all about how much you "hate" Labor.
Again your lament is all about how much you "hate" Labor.Despite what you think I hate them both equally - but as a doe-eyed true believer you naturally take offence at my hated of the ALP. Fair enough.
Shorten's as charismatic as a stick of celery, however the PM is not the government. All we need is a PM who can lead a reasonably united cabinet whilst keeping most backbenchers happy. Unlike the LNP, Labor isn't going to the next election paralysed by ideological battles.
The Liberals are focused on the extremely wrought inside and outside the Party. Clearly more Victorians saw past the carp (sic) and are over it.
I would have called it an outright certainty.
I think there's an extreme likelihood that Shorten may even be knifed before the end of his term as PM - it's already happened twice.
We've got all the same factors in play to re-ignite that simmering factionalism that destroyed the ALP last time they were in government. Because the present government is so comprehensively incompetent the Labor Party's internal problems haven't been looked at for the last few years - but they're still there. They're just waiting till they get back into power to spring back to life...
I think there's an extreme likelihood that Shorten may even be knifed before the end of his term as PM - it's already happened twice.I would have called it an outright certainty.
He still has to be the leader at the next election and while removing him before that would be "and you can insert your own word here" it really would not surprise me.
Perhaps as of now we can start nominating which LNP seats in each state will be lost at the next Federal election??As you say, it depends on how much of this really was because the Victorian people hate the Morrison government OR was it purely Matthew Guy soliciting money from gangsters? Dan Andrews has also been a very slick operator and has managed to dodge lots of issues like the CFA etc. so at the moment he's still having a charmed run in government - plunging revenues from stamp duty will test their mettle as their new term in government rolls on.
Dan Andrews has also been a very slick operator and has managed to dodge lots of issues like the CFA etc. so at the moment he's still having a charmed run in government - plunging revenues from stamp duty will test their mettle as their new term in government rolls on.
True it would be historical for Victoria, but in recent history not unprecedented, look at Qld. Two governments were ousted with massive historical margins. The number of rusted on party voters is declining and voters that are normally aligned to a party now do take the step of voting for an alternative when they think their mob have gone out of control, to teach them a lesson.And, he has survived a full term as leader!If I were a betting man, I'd put a few quid on the ALP retaining government in Victoria for two terms. For the coalition to win the next election it would need about the biggest swing in Victorian political history.
Despite what you think I hate them both equallyNot really as I’ve previously challenged your charade of impartiality. From your posts one side is far, far worse which is why you had to throw in.
I think there's an extreme likelihood that Shorten may even be knifed before the end of his term as PM - it's already happened twice.You’re saying don’t vote Labor because Shorten will get knifed. Surely people would be voting Labor and not so much for him given his lacklustre personal popularity.
Added to that is the extreme bloody-mindedness of Morrison and Frydenburg in marching out of the House of Representatives yesterday just as Dr Kerryn Phelps was due to make her maiden speech to parliament (couldn't be bothered showing respect to someone whose vote they will need!). It's hard to imagine a more incompetent pair of dolts for leaders...Very poor form. She may have given them some insight as to why the Libs might lose the next election. First, stop listening to the extremely wrought media.
Innuendo, personal slurs etc. is all part of the game. I'm extremely disappointed with Senator Hanson-Young, Julia Banks and my (ex-) local member for Higgins Kelly O'Dwyer in slagging out the whole of politics as being anti-woman when basically it's just anti-people. The LNP have been trying to make an effort to run women but they often get given hard seats to win (Mayo for Georgina Downer) or they fall on the wrong side of factional deals. But this aside, they'll keep rounding in on Hanson-Young because she's made a point of suing Lleynholm in civil court - that's politics. And it's working, Hanson-Young looked like she was cracking up today - misogynist behaviour is part of it for sure but she has made herself a target with her suing another Senator in civil court.Don Dunstan, it's reasons like this, and the all the BS that has gone on in Canberra over the past 12-18 months, is exactly why the public is fed up, and has had enough, why do you think we are seeing record swings in all the seats these days?? , it's because Joe Public has had a gutful, and they want out, and it will continue to happen until the pollies actually SHUT THEIR MOUTHS, and start listening again.
But yeah the whole thing is degenerating into petty personality politics - who is running the country? Not those people apparently.
What a shock that Malcolm Bligh Turnbull is advising Julia Banks on how to stick the knife into the dying Morrison government. From The Australian:Totally agree.
The Australian understands the Prime Minister was blindsided by Ms Banks’ announcement yesterday, with the Malcolm Turnbull loyalist marching to the office of Attorney-General Christian Porter with independent MP Kerryn Phelps to seek urgent advice on Mr Dutton’s case.
…The Australian understands Mr Turnbull, who retains support from former staffers, has remained in contact with a group of Coalition MPs and ministers since he quit parliament following the August leadership spill. He is accused by some of running a shadow campaign against Mr Morrison to bring down the government…
Again, Malcolm Turnbull is destroying the Liberal Party from outside with his influence and money for no other reason that if he can't be Prime Minister then nobody can. Why he just didn't go quietly like he said he was going to do is beyond me... all that money and he's still a petty, spiteful man with no interest in the well-being of the Australian people. And determined to get revenge on the Liberal Party because they made the terrible mistake of making him Prime Minister; how they're regretting that decision now!
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