Lindsay Transport New Reefers

 
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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
These look interesting and which routes are these reefers running on please?

Lindsay Transport New Reefers

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  Fatty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
I've seen them on all PNs Melbourne departures.
  M636C Minister for Railways

These look interesting and which routes are these reefers running on please?

Lindsay Transport New Reefers
bevans
I saw two of them together on last Saturday's 4PS6....

Peter
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
They are really nice looking wagons and reefers could we be seeing the birth of a new operator in the making?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Interesting that what started out as the Coffs Harbour Lindsay Brothers road freight company are using rail. They are sometimes referred to around the Tweed NSW district as the smart operators preferred by the local banana and small croppers in years gone by as offering a faster and more reliable service to the Sydney and Melbourne fruit markets than the NSWGR service.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If Lindsay Bros can make rail work nd it certainly looks like they are a slick concern then why not Scotts and K&S Freighters?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
If Lindsay Bros can make rail work nd it certainly looks like they are a slick concern then why not Scotts and K&S Freighters?
bevans
I don't understand why you and a couple of other notables continue to barrage RP with these pointless questions.

Scotts, K&S and myriad others are businesses run in the hope of making a profit for shareholders not to please rail fans. There are many reasons which may apply, they may not have the expertise within their business, they may have had a bad experience or three with rail before, they may have invested heavily in Road after various rail operators gave away the traffic in the past,they might even just really really like trucks!

Unless government mandates rail for these private businesses they will continue to act in a way that they think brings the best results for owners and / or shareholders. Which for them at this point in time is Road whether you and I like it or not.

BG
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Lindsay Bros. reefer containers regularly appear on PN trains heading to Townsville and Cairns, probably backloading with bananas from Innisfail.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Lindsay Bros. reefer containers regularly appear on PN trains heading to Townsville and Cairns, probably backloading with bananas from Innisfail.
Sulla1
Don't bananas go black if refrigerated?

Peter
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Lindsay Bros. reefer containers regularly appear on PN trains heading to Townsville and Cairns, probably backloading with bananas from Innisfail.
Sulla1

From Brisbane or elsewhere?

I believed bananas came from north of Townsville but south of Cairns?

How many trains are now using cairns for freight these days?
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Lindsay Bros. reefer containers regularly appear on PN trains heading to Townsville and Cairns, probably backloading with bananas from Innisfail.
Don't bananas go black if refrigerated?

Peter
M636C
They don't refrigerate them as such just temp controlled. Bananas are picked slightly underripe but the skin produces ethane which ripens the fruit naturally. Actually, if you have underripe fruit, putting them in a storage container with banana skins will assist in ripening.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Lindsay Bros used to use FCL Transport for years moving bananas out of Queensland. FCL trucks would venture forth ex- FCL Townsville to near and far loading into 40' and 48' reefers. Then back to 35 Moorehead Street, Sth Townsville for shipment to Sydney (Flemington Markets, I think) and to Melbourne.

Late in the day, just before Linfox bought FCL, we'd ship rolls of recycled paper ex-APM Port Botany (actually cardstock) up to Townsville to the APM box making factory using reefers (unpowered). There, they'd make fruit boxes (think avocadoes, mangoes, etc) and the boxed fruit would return in the same reefers at +3C. A good way to make money. NRC and QR used to do a twice week seamless service from Sydney to Cairns and sometimes 1/2 the train was FCL reefers heading to Townsville.

Linfox essentially shut off the service for whatever dumb reason, the APM box factory in Townsville closed, NRC is now PN, QR are gone and 35 Moorehead Street has been sold off to developers.
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

If Lindsay Bros can make rail work nd it certainly looks like they are a slick concern then why not Scotts and K&S Freighters?
I don't understand why you and a couple of other notables continue to barrage RP with these pointless questions.

Scotts, K&S and myriad others are businesses run in the hope of making a profit for shareholders not to please rail fans. There are many reasons which may apply, they may not have the expertise within their business, they may have had a bad experience or three with rail before, they may have invested heavily in Road after various rail operators gave away the traffic in the past,they might even just really really like trucks!

Unless government mandates rail for these private businesses they will continue to act in a way that they think brings the best results for owners and / or shareholders. Which for them at this point in time is Road whether you and I like it or not.

BG
BrentonGolding
K&S send heaps of stuff to Perth on rail. Scott do as well but not so much
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
K&S send heaps of stuff to Perth on rail. Scott do as well but not so much
ParkesHub
Yes because over such a long distance the cost savings are too great to ignore. If you do one of your competitors will likely take the business off you. But over a shorter distance the inconvenience of rail and the smaller cost differential shifts the balance.

And there are a fair few trucking firms that don't use rail at all.

Hopefully with the rise of more customer and outcome focused operators like SSR and SCT we will see a gradual shift of some stuff back to Rail but it aint gonna happen overnight and it certainly aint gonna happen because someone on RP says it should!

BG
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Lindsay Bros. reefer containers regularly appear on PN trains heading to Townsville and Cairns, probably backloading with bananas from Innisfail.

From Brisbane or elsewhere?

I believed bananas came from north of Townsville but south of Cairns?

How many trains are now using cairns for freight these days?
x31

North Queensland banana production is predominantly in the 95km long strip between Cardwell and Innisfail, plus the Atherton Tablelands - the region producing 94% (or 389,000tonnes) of Australia's banana crop. In the 1990s banana containers were loaded at Kennedy (north of Cardwell), Euramo (south of Tully, and the current operations hub for Blenners) and Innisfail, with container gantries at all locations. Since the arrival of PN in 2005, and the impact of Cyclone Larry in 2006, the disruption of which resulted in a signifcant shift to road in the Tully region, Innisfail is now the only location between Townsville and Cairns loading bananas. Cairns also loads a substantial amount.

Aurizon and PN each generally run one train per day in each direction between Brisbane and Cairns, and these are now the only regular freights north of Townsville. Some containers to and from North Queensland orginate or terminate in Brisbane, but a lot of the fruit tonnage moves through to Sydney and Melbourne, returning with freight for Woolworths and Coles supermarkets in North Queensland.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Why did Cyclone Larry or how did it push rail freight to road?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Probably a combination of things, but the easiest explanation is that over the eighteen months when there was virtually zero banana production from all of North Queensland, QR and PN started filling their trains with other contracts, and as the bananas slowly came back, road was better suited to picking up the smaller tonnages, which then turned into big tonnages. The size of the Blenners road hub at Euramo, mostly built since Cyclone Larry, is simply astonishing.

Prior to PN starting up, QR was running a daily freight specifically serving Innisfail and Euramo, usually made up entirely of maxi-cube reefer containers for bananas, that connected directly with a PN freight at Acacia Ridge. And that was on top of the other two to three freights a day south from Cairns.

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