Kenya Standard Gauge Railway Stage 1 opens

 
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Stage 1 of the Standard Gauge line from Mombasa (port) to Nairobi (national capital of Kenya) opened in May 2017.

Work has started on Stage 2 from Nairobi to Uganda capital of Kampala.

The line is built to Chinese class 1 standards, and allows for double stacking, and future 25kV electrification.

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  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Stage 1 of the Standard Gauge line from Mombasa (port) to Nairobi (national capital of Kenya) opened in May 2017.

Work has started on Stage 2 from Nairobi to Uganda capital of Kampala.

The line is built to Chinese class 1 standards, and allows for double stacking, and future 25kV electrification.
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The "Economist" newspaper reports that goods traffic on the new SG line is not obeying the "Build it and they will come" law.

While Africa still has a few non-white elephants of the 4-legged kind, the above article (24 Mar 2018 p45) is headed "Kenya's white elephant."
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
I think there was a documentary made on this line before work began and to say it was 2 steel rails laid a distance apart from each other was the best you could say of the line.
With derailments, breakdowns and an absolute 'She'll be Right' attitude, the overall speed attained from one end of the line to another barely reached 5 KmPH if they were lucky.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Now that Stage 1 of the new Kenyan SGR is open, the Kenyan press is reporting the reluctance of the Chinese to let Kenyans gradually takeover running the show. As promised, presumably in the signed treaty.

See https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001287119/exclusive-behind-the-sgr-walls

Chinese crew even enjoy smoking, where this is a sackable offence for Kenyans.
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

in one sense I am not surprised that the initial actual demand for SG trains is low , in a country where Metre gauge is the standard gauge. The money would have been better spent on upgrading and improving the existing metre gauge network to make it more efficient.

In freight movement, consistency of schedule actually has priority over speed , reliable schedule is the key to holding and increasing traffic. If ,over time you can reduce total transit time , all the better , but maintaining schedule is the priority.

Regards, Radioman.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
'In freight movement, consistency of schedule actually has priority over speed , reliable schedule is the key to holding and increasing traffic. If, over time you can reduce total transit time , all the better , but maintaining schedule is the priority.'

Applies equally to passenger traffic but I defy anyone to convince Andrews, Allan, the Geelong mob and/or Guy of this.

Break neck speed is both fantasy and useless if the whole thing runs like a shaggy dog (for which there is currently irrefutable evidence). I think most passengers would gladly sacrifice 5 minutes for a frequent, regular, guaranteed, punctual, adequate and reliable 'Swiss level' of service.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
in one sense I am not surprised that the initial actual demand for SG trains is low , in a country where Metre gauge is the standard gauge. The money would have been better spent on upgrading and improving the existing metre gauge network to make it more efficient.

In freight movement, consistency of schedule actually has priority over speed , reliable schedule is the key to holding and increasing traffic. If ,over time you can reduce total transit time , all the better , but maintaining schedule is the priority.
Radioman
While narrow gauge might be cheaper, none of the NG advocates proposed spending of a lot of their own money.

Looking forward to an expanded system reaching Uganda, Buranda, Rwanda, and eastern Congo, (and connections to South Sudan, Ethiopia and Tanzania) the Chinese did propose spending a lot of their own money for a quality, high performance SG railway.

It is also easier to build the SGR on a greenfield site, than to rebuild the NGR where possessions are needed.

One can even imagine a SG line connecting Uganda with SG Egypt, leapfrogging over NG Sudan until a SG Sudan link is built.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Stage 1 of the Standard Gauge line from Mombasa (port) to Nairobi (national capital of Kenya) opened in May 2017.

Work proceeds on Stage 2 from Nairobi to Uganda capital of Kampala.

The line is built to Chinese class 1 standards, and allows for double stacking, and future 25kV electrification.
awsgc24
Does China Rail do any double stacking on 25kV lines, inwhich case the Kenya SGR would be to an even heavier class 0 standard?
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Does China Rail do any double stacking on 25kV lines, inwhich case the Kenya SGR would be to an even heavier class 0 standard?
awsgc24
Is there anywhere in the world where double stacking occurs under wires?
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Does China Rail do any double stacking on 25kV lines, in which case the Kenya SGR would be to an even heavier class 0 standard?
Is there anywhere in the world where double stacking occurs under wires?
Big J
India is building some Double Stacking 25kV lines for freight only lines. Smile
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Does China Rail do any double stacking on 25kV lines, in which case the Kenya SGR would be to an even heavier class 0 standard?
Is there anywhere in the world where double stacking occurs under wires?
India is building some Double Stacking 25kV lines for freight only lines. Smile
awsgc24
thankyou.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Does China Rail do any double stacking on 25kV lines, in which case the Kenya SGR would be to an even heavier class 0 standard?
Is there anywhere in the world where double stacking occurs under wires?
India is building some Double Stacking 25kV lines for freight only lines. Smile
thankyou.
Big J

The new SG lines in Ethiopia and Tanzania are also to allow for double stacking and 25kV.

BTW, how high does the OHW have to be to sllow for 25kV and DoubleStacking.
IIRC, single stacking and 1500VDS needs about 4400mm for the OHW.

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