Station Rebuilds

 
  ptvcommuter Locomotive Fireman

Many of the Stations on our network are in disrepair and need to be rebuilt. The LX will achieve this but they are a road/rail based project that focuses on congestion and safety. If you look at recent rebuilds, Balaclava cost $13.3 Million as did Southland - $13 Million so we can use that as an example for your normal stations. Then looking your major stations with much higher patronage/Interchange Stations, Laverton cost $90 Million to rebuild but that included a new platform so the cost would be lower, Frankston Station cost $63 Million. Now there are other projects that are more important, but there are stations that must be upgraded and rebuilt.

These are examples of stations that could do with a facelift

For you major stations/very high patronage stations - Box Hill, Richmond, Moorabbin, Elsternwick, Burnley, Dandenong and Glen Waverley Stations

For your normal stations -  Yarraman, Heyington, Darling, Patterson, Aircarft, Jacana, North Richmond, Gardenvale and Homesglen are examples, there are many more

Which stations alongside these ones should be rebuilt and upgraded ?

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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
if it ain't broke don't fix (Prepares for 59,000000000000 disagrees)
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Have you looked here?
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11388086-s0.htm
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11397287.htm
I wonder what they'll do to Werribee.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Have you looked here?
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11388086-s0.htm
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11397287.htm
I wonder what they'll do to Werribee.
Gauntlet
The old station is safe. Heritage listed, and not likely in the way of any works to remove level crossings at Cherry St. From the initial community meetings we are expecting some possible answers to the remainder of the station's fate in February. Road over is expected given the supermarket right next to the line, and the need to provision for double stacked containers on the narrow gauge. whether any rebuilt station was roughly in the present location was a live topic at the Community meeting i attended.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Have you looked here?
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11388086-s0.htm
https://Railpage.com.au/f-t11397287.htm
I wonder what they'll do to Werribee.
The old station is safe. Heritage listed, and not likely in the way of any works to remove level crossings at Cherry St. From the initial community meetings we are expecting some possible answers to the remainder of the station's fate in February. Road over is expected given the supermarket right next to the line, and the need to provision for double stacked containers on the narrow gauge. whether any rebuilt station was roughly in the present location was a live topic at the Community meeting i attended.
Galron
I can't see the grade of the railway changing due to ARTC strict rules of engagement, In relation to rail shutdowns.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I don't know what you are worried about, it's all good, as DD says if it ain't broke....... South Kensington for example, a shining example of what people will put up with so that the budget can stay in surplus!

BG
  vlocity27 Locomotive Driver

Location: Pakenham
Nothing wrong with Dandenong??
  Revenue Chief Commissioner

Nothing wrong with Dandenong??
vlocity27
I think there is quite a bit wrong with Dandenong - but I'm not necessarily of the view that you need to tear it down and start again.

It probably needs:
- The island platform to be widened by moving the tracks out on one side to allow for more circulation on the platform and more stairs up to the overpass (seven carriage trains will put more pressure on the station).
- Additional peak only set of gates to allow people to move through the station more cleanly
- A thorough paint and cleaning (seriously - the station is late 90s and has not been cared for properly)

I'm not sure it needs much more than this (some reconfiguration of the bus interchange, more bike parking, improved link to Dandenong Creek trail, etc..).

So yes, I think it needs some love - but hopefully in the millions, not the hundreds of millions.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

While I’m very much in the “if it ain’t broke” camp I think Metro’s engineering standard actually provides a very reasonable long-term vision of what stations should look like.

It’s interesting that fairly recent stations are non-compliant in various ways, but such are the challenges of a system as complex as a railway.

https://documentportal.metrotrains.com.au/engineeringdocs/Standards/L1-CHE-STD-013.pdf
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Nothing wrong with Dandenong??
I think there is quite a bit wrong with Dandenong - but I'm not necessarily of the view that you need to tear it down and start again.

It probably needs:
- The island platform to be widened by moving the tracks out on one side to allow for more circulation on the platform and more stairs up to the overpass (seven carriage trains will put more pressure on the station).
- Additional peak only set of gates to allow people to move through the station more cleanly
- A thorough paint and cleaning (seriously - the station is late 90s and has not been cared for properly)

I'm not sure it needs much more than this (some reconfiguration of the bus interchange, more bike parking, improved link to Dandenong Creek trail, etc..).

So yes, I think it needs some love - but hopefully in the millions, not the hundreds of millions.
Revenue
Dandenong Station should have another Island platform built (before the old goods yard area gets gobbled up by property developers.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
I can't see the grade of the railway changing due to ARTC strict rules of engagement, In relation to rail shutdowns.
Nightfire

This issue with the closure restrictions on the line was noted in the community meeting i was at. There was a lot of idea's thrown about, including the closure of the current cherry street crossing, and moving the crossing point to a new section of road over what is currently a water board canal, on the Hoppers Crossing side of Tarneit Rd, and going for an aviation rd style road over rail.

The petroleum pipeline was considered to be more of a hassle, as they need 2 years notice before doing any works that might need a shutdown of that.

I personally mused that the BG be closed, and the SG temporarily be run on what is currently the Down Broad gauge alignment, down past werribee st, which is supposed to be done at the same time. BG Freight would retain a path via wyndham vale, and the lowering of the track could be done, at both locations, without any more than a couple of days shutdown on the SG. moves that traffic out of the way of any larger redevelopment/rebuild of the werribee station precinct at the same time.

Am a daily user of the service at present, and am very keen to see what they come up with in the new year.
  vlocity27 Locomotive Driver

Location: Pakenham
Nothing wrong with Dandenong??
I think there is quite a bit wrong with Dandenong - but I'm not necessarily of the view that you need to tear it down and start again.

It probably needs:
- The island platform to be widened by moving the tracks out on one side to allow for more circulation on the platform and more stairs up to the overpass (seven carriage trains will put more pressure on the station).
- Additional peak only set of gates to allow people to move through the station more cleanly
- A thorough paint and cleaning (seriously - the station is late 90s and has not been cared for properly)

I'm not sure it needs much more than this (some reconfiguration of the bus interchange, more bike parking, improved link to Dandenong Creek trail, etc..).

So yes, I think it needs some love - but hopefully in the millions, not the hundreds of millions.
Revenue
Thankyou for clarifying, was gonna say definitely doesn't need a rebuild. Do agree with the above, very true.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Assuming they cost $10 million each at the bottom end and no other work is done (the above-ground Heatherdale rebuild was around $7 million back in 2007, and that came with a free shower inside the waiting area every time it rained)...

Mont Albert platform 2+3 is an eyesore, as is the waiting area at Burnley (platform 3+4) and East Camberwell (1+2).
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

a free shower inside the waiting area every time it rained
Heihachi_73

If I had my way, we'd focus a station rebuild program on providing verandah that keep out the damn rain.

Every new build station seems to have those stupid upward sloping roofs that let the whole platform get drenched.

Whereas the downward curling verandahs in the old style (most obviously at Flinders St) just get the platform edge wet, unless it's super windy.
  n459L1150 Train Controller

Location: Echuca
am I the only person who thinks that sunbury needs a MASSIVE rebuild, it was and still is a pretty small station with a very LARGE patronage. some sort of separation between v/line and Metro services would be wonderful for those of us who CHOOSE to live in the country

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