Mechanical Signal Boxes Remaining NSW

 
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Mechanical Signal Boxes in NSW are fast disappearing. Which Remain? Some country signal boxes are little more than Ground Frames with only a few levers, say 4 or 8. A few remaining "old style relay interlockings", too few to justify a separate a separate thread, are also included.

SOUTH
Canberra - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .
Queanbeyan - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .

ILLAWARRA
Bomaderry (Nowra) - (8 levers)
Berry - (8 levers) see http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2421.pdf

NORTH
Gosford - (116 levers) (mixture of mechanical, old style relay and NX interlockings)
See :  http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2309.pdf  
Hamilton - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .

WEST
Mount Victoria
Lithgow Coal Stage - (81+ levers) http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2762.pdf
Lithgow Yard - (18+ levers)

Any others? Can't speak for other states.

ABOUT
sa-trackandsignal.net is a website with info and diagrams about the nationwide standard gauge network.
Other gauges, and NSW cityrail tracks are not covered. So WA, SA, VIC, QLD, and TAS not covered.

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  theanimal Chief Commissioner

on the North both Morriset and Fassifern exist on a part time basis with a mixture of mechanical and electric interlockings
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
on the North both Morriset and Fassifern exist on a part time basis with a mixture of mechanical and electric interlockings
"theanimal"


Morriset - CORRECT - mechanical levers (17+) and points, colour light signals, controls Vales Point NX.
See: http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2312.pdf

Fassifern - WRONG - NX interlocking - (56)
See: http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2313.pdf
  NSWRcars Chief Train Controller

Any others?
awsgc24
Mittagong?
  theanimal Chief Commissioner


Fassifern - WRONG - NX interlocking - (56)
See: http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2313.pdf
awsgc24
OK I was last in Fassifern in about 1994 and seem to recall a large frame there.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Any others?
awsgc24
Mittagong?
"NSWRcars"


CORRECT Smile
Mittagong - (28 levers) - http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR275.pdf
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
CORRECT Smile
Mittagong - (mechanical 28 levers) - http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR275.pdf/quote

REMOTE CONTROL
All electrical interlockings can be remotely controlled, but are there any that are not?

sa-trackandsignal.nt does not say so. Are there any that are not? Well?
For example
* Broken Hill (c1970 - NX )
* Hanbury Junction (c1972?)
* etc?
  georges Train Controller

Mechanical Signal Boxes in NSW are fast disappearing. Which Remain? Some country signal boxes are little more than Ground Frames with only a few levers, say 4 or 8. A few remaining "old style relay interlockings", too few to justify a separate a separate thread, are also included.

SOUTH
Canberra - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .
Queanbeyan - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .
awsgc24
A couple of dated diagrams for both locations. Canberra is at very top of first pdf

[size=2][font=Helvetica]http://www.artc.com.au/library/ARTCS3090008_CRN_1.pdf[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=Helvetica]http://www.signaldiagramsandphotos.com/mywebpages/nsw/Southern/QUEANBEYAN-1987.pdf[/font][/size]
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
SOUTH
Canberra - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .
Queanbeyan - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .

A couple of dated diagrams for both locations. Canberra is at very top of first pdf
[size=2][font=Helvetica]http://www.artc.com.au/library/ARTCS3090008_CRN_1.pdf[/font][/size]
[size=2][font=Helvetica]http://www.signaldiagramsandphotos.com/mywebpages/nsw/Southern/QUEANBEYAN-1987.pdf[/font][/size]


QUEANBAYAN
Has 8 levers - Frame F has even more !
Signals 2 and 1 are Home and Distant on the same post ! There is also a fixed at caution distant signal.
  NSWRcars Chief Train Controller

QUEANBAYAN
Has 8 levers - Frame F has even more !
Signals 2 and 1 are Home and Distant on the same post ! There is also a fixed at caution distant signal.
awsgc24
All removed February 2009.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Any others?
Mittagong?


CORRECT Smile
Mittagong - (28 levers) - http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/ARTC/AR275.pdf
awsgc24
Wasn't Mittagong closed by ARTC at the same time as all the other mechanical boxes under their control? As far as I can remember it went around when Picton and Moss Vale closed. Junee controls everything from Macarthur to Melbourne on the Main Line and has done so for at least 12 years, as I believe Moss Vale was the last to close in 2007.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Mechanical Signal Boxes in NSW are fast disappearing. Which Remain? Some country signal boxes are little more than Ground Frames with only a few levers, say 4 or 8. A few remaining "old style relay interlockings", too few to justify a separate a separate thread, are also included.

SOUTH
Canberra - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .
Queanbeyan - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .

ILLAWARRA
Bomaderry (Nowra) - (8 levers)
Berry - (8 levers) see http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2421.pdf

NORTH
Gosford - (116 levers) (mixture of mechanical, old style relay and NX interlockings)
See :  http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2309.pdf  
Hamilton - no diagram at http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net .

WEST
Mount Victoria
Lithgow Coal Stage - (81+ levers) http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2762.pdf
Lithgow Yard - (18+ levers)

Any others? Can't speak for other states.

ABOUT
sa-trackandsignal.net is a website with info and diagrams about the nationwide standard gauge network.
Other gauges, and NSW cityrail tracks are not covered. So WA, SA, VIC, QLD, and TAS not covered.
awsgc24
Hamilton box closed about 2 years ago, same as Woodville,Newcastle and Wickham.
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
I'm fairly sure Berry's frame was decommissioned as well, it went when electric staff working was withdrawn in 2014, either way, the semaphores are gone, and the points are now controlled by point motors, operated from a local panel.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
I was told by the staff at Mittagong in 2018 that the box was decommissioned.  I have seen track machines in the down siding over the last few years, certainly later than the earlier reported 2009 closure.
  NSWRcars Chief Train Controller

Wasn't Mittagong closed by ARTC at the same time as all the other mechanical boxes under their control?
Throughwestmail
ARTC Network information Book Sydney 3, dated 5th September 2017 and available on their web site, describes the arrangements at Mittagong Signal Box, and has diagrams showing the mechanical signalling associated with the down refuge.
http://www.artc.com.au/uploads/OGW-30-27_book.pdf
The down refuge may not have been used recently, but was certainly still in use only two or three years ago.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Wasn't Mittagong closed by ARTC at the same time as all the other mechanical boxes under their control?
ARTC Network information Book Sydney 3, dated 5th September 2017 and available on their web site, describes the arrangements at Mittagong Signal Box, and has diagrams showing the mechanical signalling associated with the down refuge.
http://www.artc.com.au/uploads/OGW-30-27_book.pdf
The down refuge may not have been used recently, but was certainly still in use only two or three years ago.
NSWRcars
The Down Refuge may still be in use, but believe me , the signal box has been closed for many years now. The access to the refuge is given by a release from the NCC South at Junee, the same as everywhere else under ARTC control. Please note on page 49 of 53 "Special arrangements if there is a failure of the signals protecting Mittagong pedestrian level crossing If either Down home signal No. 2, Down starting signal No. 4, Up home signal No. 27A, or shunting signal No. 14, No. 16, No. 18, No. 19 or No. 27B fails, the Network Controller Main South A must not authorise a train to pass these signals at stop until: • either the Network Rules and Procedures for warning trains have been carried out • or an assurance has been obtained from the Handsignaller(s) at the level crossing that the road traffic is clear of the crossing"
  NSWRcars Chief Train Controller

Signal box may have been "closed" for years (switched out) but the manual is clear: "The points and signals at Mittagong are operated from the signalbox."
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Wasn't Mittagong closed by ARTC at the same time as all the other mechanical boxes under their control?
ARTC Network information Book Sydney 3, dated 5th September 2017 and available on their web site, describes the arrangements at Mittagong Signal Box, and has diagrams showing the mechanical signalling associated with the down refuge.
http://www.artc.com.au/uploads/OGW-30-27_book.pdf
The down refuge may not have been used recently, but was certainly still in use only two or three years ago.
The Down Refuge may still be in use, but believe me , the signal box has been closed for many years now. The access to the refuge is given by a release from the NCC South at Junee, the same as everywhere else under ARTC control. Please note on page 49 of 53 "Special arrangements if there is a failure of the signals protecting Mittagong pedestrian level crossing If either Down home signal No. 2, Down starting signal No. 4, Up home signal No. 27A, or shunting signal No. 14, No. 16, No. 18, No. 19 or No. 27B fails, the Network Controller Main South A must not authorise a train to pass these signals at stop until: • either the Network Rules and Procedures for warning trains have been carried out • or an assurance has been obtained from the Handsignaller(s) at the level crossing that the road traffic is clear of the crossing"
Throughwestmail
I wonder what sort of road traffic uses the pedestrian crossing. ROFLMAO!  
Typical bureaucratic wordsmithing.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
I'm fairly sure Berry's frame was decommissioned as well, it went when electric staff working was withdrawn in 2014, either way, the semaphores are gone, and the points are now controlled by point motors, operated from a local panel.
"steve_w_1990"


This diagram still shows ground frame operated points at Berry : http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2421.pdf
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Signal box may have been "closed" for years (switched out) but the manual is clear: "The points and signals at Mittagong are operated from the signalbox."
NSWRcars
In this case the Signalbox is located at Network Control Centre South at Junee, and the signaller is the Network Controller Main South A.
  Shed_Rat2 Station Staff

Hamilton box is decommissioned.

South Maitland Railways East Greta Junction signal box is still operational.
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Newnes Junction appears to be still a mechanical signal box. All points and signals are electrically operated. 48 levers.

See: http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2763.pdf (OOD)
00D = Out of Date.
  steve_w_1990 Junior Train Controller

Location: Trying to fix something on the PTA Network
I'm fairly sure Berry's frame was decommissioned as well, it went when electric staff working was withdrawn in 2014, either way, the semaphores are gone, and the points are now controlled by point motors, operated from a local panel.


This diagram still shows ground frame operated points at Berry : http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2421.pdf
awsgc24
Weekly notice 22 (2014), Page 24 States:

Berry:

The Electric Staff instruments, the staff contact lock for Up starting signal 3 and the mechanical interlocking machine Frame A will be removed. A new One Control Switch (OCS) type control panel will be provided in the Station Manager’s office. Berry will be operated locally. A closing facility will be provided.

Source: https://railsafe.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/31888/2-06-2014-to-8-06-2014.PDF

A look on nearmap confirmed both ground frames were still in place.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Newnes Junction appears to be still a mechanical signal box. All points and signals are electrically operated. 48 levers.

See: http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Sydney/RC2763.pdf
awsgc24
This is the problem when you rely on non official diagrams. Newnes Junction is controlled by the Katoomba ATRICS panel at Blacktown Signal Box and has been for the last couple of years. The signals shown on this diagram are all incorrect, and all signals in the interlocking are controlled signals. The signs regarding entering and leaving the colliery are no longer there, and the points into and out of the loop are controlled from Blacktown also.A quick look through the other diagrams for the mountains show numerous errors as far as semi-automatic signals, location of signals and other infrastructure. A pretty clear giveaway is when Railcorp keeps being referred to.
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
Uralla?

Seen here in 2009. http://www.ipernity.com/doc/grahamh/24113845

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