Last level crossings in Sydney

 
  viaprojects Train Controller

Another reason would be the volume of traffic (rail) and number of tracks to be crossed in the Metro area would have made the use of Gates almost impossible to operate.
However, once you were outside the Metro area or where there was little rail traffic and the topography didnt provide for either an underpass or a Bridge at minimum cost, then you had a set of gates.

I'm not sure what area is being mentioned here.
Myrtone


metro changes over the years ...  Granville and west to Penrith had dual lines in the 1970's with the upgrade to quad line all the crossings (seven hills to Penrith ) where removed except on the Richmond line  where it's a single. all flat earth areas. Richmond line is slowly being upgraded to dual track and the crossing are being removed with bridges or underpasses..

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  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
Riverstone
Vineyard
Mulgrave
Windsor (car crossing)
Windsor (pedestrian crossing)
Clarendon
East Richmond
Richmond (pedestrian crossing)

Theres another 8.
s3_gunzel
Riverstone (South of station)
Riverstone (what about old meatworks?)
  johnboy Chief Commissioner

Location: Up the road from Gulgong
Riverstone
Vineyard
Mulgrave
Windsor (car crossing)
Windsor (pedestrian crossing)
Clarendon
East Richmond
Richmond (pedestrian crossing)

Theres another 8.
Riverstone (South of station)
Riverstone (what about old meatworks?)
awsgc24
That's correct, there are two at Riverstone. The old meat works is still operational as the buildings are now leased out to different companies.
  Kurmudgeon Junior Train Controller

There's also a car level crossing at Level Crossing Rd between Mulgrave and Vineyard.

I believe the pedestrian crossing at Windsor can be turned into a car crossing in times of flood evacuation, as well as a section in the city direction shortly after Mulgrave.
  johnboy Chief Commissioner

Location: Up the road from Gulgong
There's also a car level crossing at Level Crossing Rd between Mulgrave and Vineyard.
Kurmudgeon
That is "Vineyard" as mentioned in the list.
  Kurmudgeon Junior Train Controller

There's also a car level crossing at Level Crossing Rd between Mulgrave and Vineyard.
That is "Vineyard" as mentioned in the list.
johnboy

I thought the Vineyard one in the list was the level crossing at Vineyard station.
  PeeJay Junior Train Controller

Location: Riverstone NSW
On the Richmond line there is:
  • Schofields pedestrian (removed 2 years ago with duplication)
  • Riverstone station - Garfield Rd
  • Riverstone meatworks
  • Vineyard station - Bandon Rd
  • Vineyard - Level crossing Rd
  • Mulgrave flood emergency crossing
  • Mulgrave station
  • South Windsor - Fairey Rd
  • Windsor pedestrian (includes another flood emergency crossing)
  • Clarendon - Racecourse Rd
  • East Richmond - Bourke St
  • Richmond pedestrian


Garfield Rd Riverstone is in the process (yet again) of being replaced, currently in the planning stage. At this point it seems that a road bridge will be built over the existing crossing and joined into Market St, with the existing commercial precinct along Garfield Rd and the existing shopping centre being redeveloped. Don't expect anything to actually happen any time soon. I think council and RMS are at each other at the moment.

Riverstone meatworks will be closed when Garfield Rd is finished.

Vineyard station has a long term plan for an underpass with Bandon Rd extended to join Richmond Rd

There are no plans for any of the other crossings that I know of.
  Stuart Midgley Station Master

Location: Sydney, Australia
Work is definitely under way to replace the level crossing at Botany. Regular overnight works have been going on to put in place a small temporary  diversion to the existing track (notifications to local residents can be found on the relevant RMS page) to allow the new underpass to be constructed, and I can verify this has been occurring as I drive past the site after finishing work at Sydney Airport late in the evening.

I'm not sure exactly when main civil work on the underpass will commence but warning has been given to the airlines that piling rigs for the project will mean closure of the eastern approach/departure paths of the east-west runway for a few weeks next year (the site is right off the eastern end of the runway, only a hundred metres or so from the boundary fence). They're going to time that work for the time of year that strong westerly winds are least common, as without that runway available such winds would close the airport entirely.

I think (personal view only) that the Botany Rd level crossing survived so long because rail container traffic dropped off so much in the 1990s and early 2000s that it was barely used. I remember waiting for trains regularly there as kid in the parents' car in the mid 80s, but while working near there in the late 90s and early 2000s I hardly ever saw a train going across. Now of course intermodal is back in fashion and rail has been declared an important part of the port's future, and the roads around the airport are at capacity - so its time is up.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Maybe the 1990s would have been a good time to grade separate the Botany road level crossing, as it could have been done with little or no disruption.
How about the Paramatta road level crossing?
  viaprojects Train Controller

Maybe the 1990s would have been a good time to grade separate the Botany road level crossing, as it could have been done with little or no disruption.
How about the Paramatta road level crossing?
Myrtone

main road -- just waiting for light rail/tram option to be build to remove the passenger service on the line. even then the crossing may stay due to the rail workshop.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
So then there would be a tram-train level crossing, this is not something that would be warmly welcomed.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Maybe the 1990s would have been a good time to grade separate the Botany road level crossing, as it could have been done with little or no disruption.
How about the Paramatta road level crossing?
Myrtone

There will be no disruption to the goods trains at botany because the grade separation is being done while trains still operate. As I have said the Parramatta road level crossing isn't that important because the M4 is right beside it and the Parramatta light rail is likely to take over most of that rail line.
  viaprojects Train Controller

So then there would be a tram-train level crossing, this is not something that would be warmly welcomed.
Myrtone
no - just need the line to shut down for the crossing to close - use Google maps to have a look at the problem
  PeeJay Junior Train Controller

Location: Riverstone NSW
So then there would be a tram-train level crossing, this is not something that would be warmly welcomed.
Myrtone

It would be easy to build an underpass for a tram. A tram line may need to cross at a different location anyway.
  gordon_s1942 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Tablelands of NSW
While its hard to check, I would doubt much of the original line between Redfern (pre Central) and Parramatta used level crossings but where any were, I am sure they were replaced by either a Bridge or an underpass within a short time as the topography between the 2 varies with both stations and sections of the line either in cuttings or Fill.
At least they dont have to cross one of the Runways at Mascot like they used to do years ago.
  viaprojects Train Controller

While its hard to check, I would doubt much of the original line between Redfern (pre Central) and Parramatta used level crossings but where any were, I am sure they were replaced by either a Bridge or an underpass within a short time as the topography between the 2 varies with both stations and sections of the line either in cuttings or Fill.
At least they dont have to cross one of the Runways at Mascot like they used to do years ago.
gordon_s1942


easy to check - old maps and street directories - hard part are the photo's. up to the 1970-80's there where a lot of rail crossings. Harris park with wooden gates and a few along Parramatta road for freight with a traffic controller
  Stuart Midgley Station Master

Location: Sydney, Australia

There will be no disruption to the goods trains at botany because the grade separation is being done while trains still operate.
simstrain

There might be some significant disruption to Sydney Airport, however, if the wind swings westerly while those piling rigs are in position! Wink
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
While its hard to check, I would doubt much of the original line between Redfern (pre Central) and Parramatta used level crossings but where any were, I am sure they were replaced by either a Bridge or an underpass within a short time as the topography between the 2 varies with both stations and sections of the line either in cuttings or Fill.
At least they dont have to cross one of the Runways at Mascot like they used to do years ago.
gordon_s1942
There was a Train vs Plane crash at Sydney Airport in 1950 !!

http://www.spiritsofansett.com/history/train.html

That "Level Crossing" was eliminated in 1960 when the railway was deviated around the northern side of what is now the Qantas Jet Base.
  infotechplus Beginner

Parramatta Road AKA 'Dog Trap Level Crossing', heaven only knows where it got that name from.
UNless I have miscounted, there are only 2 sets of Gates on the Blue Mountains, one at Falconbridge and the other at Blackheath with a set of pedestrian booms and lights at Medlow Bath opposite the Hydro Majestic.
The was a pedestrian set of lights about halfway between Springwood and Falconbridge, not sure if their still in use.
Bell may have some sort of warning system as there in no pedestrian over bridge there.

I always wondered why they never closed the Level crossing at Blackheath as there is an overbridge on the Mt Victoria side but it is narrow so maybe wasnt considered suitable for that purpose.
gordon_s1942
It was called Dog Trap Level Crossing because in the early colony trappers hunted wild dogs in the area. Later became known as Woodville Road, after the owner of the lands surrounding it John Lackey who established a vineyard called Woodville Estate in the area.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
One of the last level crossings is Pine road, Fairfield. Near that level crossing is a railway cutting apparently deep enough for a bridge over it. Would a bridge over that cutting allow for closure of that last level crossing?
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
One of the last level crossings is Pine road, Fairfield. Near that level crossing is a railway cutting apparently deep enough for a bridge over it. Would a bridge over that cutting allow for closure of that last level crossing?
Myrtone
Who told you there was a railway cutting nearby? The land is flat.



However, looking at the link above, there is opportunity to remove the Level Crossing if the desire was there. Of course a bridge would allow for closure, either a bridge or just close it outright and provide an alternative path onto Pine Road.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I don't know which Fairfield Myrtone is looking at, but RTT is perfectly correct. The terrain around Fairfield NSW is as flat as a nightman's hat.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
It turns out that the cutting is in Guildford.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
It turns out that the cutting is in Guildford.
Myrtone
where there are no level crossings and that cutting (assume its the same) is used for water pipes to cross the railway and no roads follow the water pipes anyway.
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Parramatta Road AKA 'Dog Trap Level Crossing', heaven only knows where it got that name from.
UNless I have miscounted, there are only 2 sets of Gates on the Blue Mountains, one at Falconbridge and the other at Blackheath with a set of pedestrian booms and lights at Medlow Bath opposite the Hydro Majestic.
The was a pedestrian set of lights about halfway between Springwood and Falconbridge, not sure if their still in use.
Bell may have some sort of warning system as there in no pedestrian over bridge there.

I always wondered why they never closed the Level crossing at Blackheath as there is an overbridge on the Mt Victoria side but it is narrow so maybe wasnt considered suitable for that purpose.
It was called Dog Trap Level Crossing because in the early colony trappers hunted wild dogs in the area. Later became known as Woodville Road, after the owner of the lands surrounding it John Lackey who established a vineyard called Woodville Estate in the area.
infotechplus
Dog Trap Crossing was at Woodville Road and was replaced by an underbridge in 1964, was nowhere near Parramatta Road crossing. As for the Mountains, there is a pedestrian crossing at Springwood, another pedestrian crossing closer to Faulconbridge, the road crossing at Faulconbridge, a pedestrian crossing on the up track at Linden, a pedestrian crossing at Medlow Bath, the road crossing at Blackheath, with a seperate pedestrian crossing on the up track closer to Blackheath station and a pedestrian crossing at Bell and the pedestrian crossing at Zig Zag platform.

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