A66 Being retired?

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
It's my idea so I'm going to paint it tangerine teacup because I think there's too many blue heritage locos out there. So there.

(Exit stage left laughing maniacally to get more coffee...)

Rick
RustyRick
For anyone wondering, Dulux has Tangerine Bliss as a colour choice.

https://www.dulux.com.au/specifier/colour/tangerine-bliss

@RustyRick, you should trademark your paint colour name as its not yet taken lest every preservationist wants in on the deal....

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  DALEK Locomotive Fireman

Word on Victorian Trainspotter facebook page is that A66 will be sent to SSR Bendigo after the tour this weekend and will be overhauled and maybe repainted into PTV lively before returning to service next year.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Word on Victorian Trainspotter facebook page is that A66 will be sent to SSR Bendigo after the tour this weekend and will be overhauled and maybe repainted into PTV lively before returning to service next year.

DALEK
Shall be interesting to see whether it's going violet crumble.
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

A66 passed mmyself on a down passenger service late last week in Footscray.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Word on Victorian Trainspotter facebook page is that A66 will be sent to SSR Bendigo after the tour this weekend and will be overhauled and maybe repainted into PTV lively before returning to service next year.

Shall be interesting to see whether it's going violet crumble.
Dangersdan707
If PTV had any get up and go they would do it in V/Line orange and grey but with PT> logos as well as the V/Line ones!

But I'm sure it will be VC to match the carriages. Might be fun. Might be dreadful too!

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

You have to reckon at this point it’s someone’s (scratch that - lots of people’s) private joke just to see how long they can keep using the axe! (You know - change the head a few times, change the handle a few times, rebuild it from a B to an A, paint it in Violet Crumble...)
  M636C Minister for Railways

Old, superseded, antiquated yes but probably with 'low miles' by EMD/GM standards.
With proper maintenance, would these be better than some of the older T class lashups and B and S classes in heavier duties still around?
Perhaps ill-conceived in the beginning but were they lemons from the start?
YM-Mundrabilla
As converted, the A class retained the original traction motors (upgraded) and the high speed gear ratio.
My understanding is that the V/line units still retain these motors and gearing which makes them less suitable for freight service.

The Pacific National A class were given rebuilt D78 motors with the same gear ratio as a G class.
Despite which they were allowed to deteriorate into a very poor state and were not offered to any competition.

The three "spare" As could possibly be fitted with trucks and motors from the PN units if they still exist (but of course the trucks are also usable on X and XR class.....)

But only the private BG operators would profit from any of this.

The big problem with the As from new was that they were fitted with rubber secondary springs in place of the flexicoils (which were breaking on the excellent track in Victoria at the time). This was bad because the rubber springs were designed for much heavier USA domestic locomotives and gave a very hard ride. This in turn caused the underframes to crack (or to be honest, accelerated the rate of cracking).

So this made them unpopular with crews and they needed expensive repairs just after being rebuilt.

That probably qualifies them as "Lemons" and contributed to the last 15 rebuilds being turned into additional N class.

Peter
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The current state of the rumour mill is below. Obviously all of this should be taken with several pinches of salt but much of it seems plausible.

  • 66 will be reactivated by V/Line with the next fleet plan and 70 retained as a parts donor. (This is the part that makes the least sense, clearly; it's not like V/Line have a loco shortage so unless it's being retained for some specific operational reason this smells like BS).
  • 60 and 62 are in the process of being transferred to heritage groups
  • PN are preparing to scrap their units in the next couple of weeks.


Believe any or none of this.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
This thread's been going for over 6 months and A66 is still around. In that time John Farnham would have retired four times.
  max_thum Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
The current state of the rumour mill is below. Obviously all of this should be taken with several pinches of salt but much of it seems plausible.

  • 66 will be reactivated by V/Line with the next fleet plan and 70 retained as a parts donor. (This is the part that makes the least sense, clearly; it's not like V/Line have a loco shortage so unless it's being retained for some specific operational reason this smells like BS).
  • 60 and 62 are in the process of being transferred to heritage groups
  • PN are preparing to scrap their units in the next couple of weeks.


Believe any or none of this.
A66 can/might be reactivated if required, A66 could be rostered on due to the January or August timetable changes as the timetables are suggesting to have more services than what we have at the moment. A66 has been stored and kept active at Bendigo Roundhouse.

It's been advised that A66 will depend on passenger growth/more services needed in order to return.

A60 and A62, EOI (Expression of Interest) have been sent out to heritage groups, its expected an announcement will come soon if they do receive an A class locomotive sometime later this year. For the interim for A60,62,70, they have been tarped up and stored at South Dynon fuel depot due to a recent issue with one of the A's leaking fluids at E-Gate.
  bartaxr8 Junior Train Controller

Have a look at page 16 & 17 of this document. It has a couple of pictures as well.

http://www.rtbuvicloco.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/LocoLines-Edition-71-web.pdf
  Fatty Assistant Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
  • PN are preparing to scrap their units in the next couple of weeks.
potatoinmymouth

4 PN A Class where sitting behind a recently erected temporary fence at south Dynon broad gauge turntable today. An excavator with tools for moving metal around was parked nearby. I'm tipping those A Class will be gone very soon.
  max_thum Station Master

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
  • PN are preparing to scrap their units in the next couple of weeks.

4 PN A Class where sitting behind a recently erected temporary fence at south Dynon broad gauge turntable today. An excavator with tools for moving metal around was parked nearby. I'm tipping those A Class will be gone very soon.
Fatty

The four A classes now fenced off at South Dynon BG turntable are believed to be A73, A77, A81 and A85 with the date for scrapping supposed to be 07/01/19.

The remainder of the PN A classes have been moved elsewhere within South Dynon with the exception of A78 has been moved to Bendigo Workshops (currently on transfer bogies).
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Marcus Wong has a series of photos of these 4 A class being cut up over the space of a few days earlier this week, so @Fatty and @max thum were correct. Four less A's now around

Marcus - A class

Neil
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
You guys are going to call me crazy but I just contacted PN (via telephone) about purchasing one of their 3 Remaining A classes. Going to try to get A71 or A79 as they are seemingly the most complete.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
You guys are going to call me crazy but I just contacted PN (via telephone) about purchasing one of their 3 Remaining A classes. Going to try to get A71 or A79 as they are seemingly the most complete.
"Dangersdan707"
Good Luck !
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

We call you Dingbat Dan for a reason mate!

Last time I took some scrap around to Sims they were offering the princely sum of $0.14/kg for mixed ferrous scrap, and much more for copper, aluminium and so on.

So even if PN were planning on dropping A71 off the back of the truck straight into Sims' yard, you'd better be ready to have... let's see... 120,000kg  * 0.14 = $16,800 big ones ready.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
We call you Dingbat Dan for a reason mate!

Last time I took some scrap around to Sims they were offering the princely sum of $0.14/kg for mixed ferrous scrap, and much more for copper, aluminium and so on.

So even if PN were planning on dropping A71 off the back of the truck straight into Sims' yard, you'd better be ready to have... let's see... 120,000kg  * 0.14 = $16,800 big ones ready.
potatoinmymouth
And a place to take it as they won't want it hanging around their place too long.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Buying it will be the cheapest part of the purchase.   The biggest cost will be the crane and truck hire to move it.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
You guys are going to call me crazy but I just contacted PN (via telephone) about purchasing one of their 3 Remaining A classes. Going to try to get A71 or A79 as they are seemingly the most complete.
Dangersdan707
And how much will the temporary BG siding to your backyard cost? - you will of course require it to be delivered that way I gather.

But, good luck if you succeed.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
You guys are going to call me crazy but I just contacted PN (via telephone) about purchasing one of their 3 Remaining A classes. Going to try to get A71 or A79 as they are seemingly the most complete.
Dangersdan707
Well, Ding-a-Ling, crazy or not, what is the plan, if you happen to score one of the Loco's.

Front to Rear, reconditioning and hire her out Razz got a colour scheme for the DangerousDan Broad Gauge Haulage Locomotive ?

BigShunter.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

DangerousDan Broad Gauge Haulage Locomotive ?
BigShunter

If this happens I will eat a non-gauge-convertible sleeper. Happily!
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
DangerousDan Broad Gauge Haulage Locomotive ?

If this happens I will eat a non-gauge-convertible sleeper. Happily!
potatoinmymouth
And once again, BG  will be supplying the Liquid to Flash it down, with Wink

BigShunter.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

DangerousDan Broad Gauge Haulage Locomotive ?

If this happens I will eat a non-gauge-convertible sleeper. Happily!
potatoinmymouth
What type though? Choose a steel one if you need to increase your iron intake, choose a concrete sleeper if you need to harden the firetruck up (a spoonful is the usual recommendation for this), and a modern recycled polymer sleeper would be ideal if you are accustomed to eating McDonalds.

Increasing your fibre intake by eating a wooden sleeper is not an option, as all wooden sleepers are gauge convertible.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
You guys are going to call me crazy but I just contacted PN (via telephone) about purchasing one of their 3 Remaining A classes. Going to try to get A71 or A79 as they are seemingly the most complete.
Dangersdan707
You are crazy.

BG

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