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      Carnot Minister for Railways

    What is it with these crazy eco-fascist nutters blocking city streets and trams, chaining themselves to cars, sending businesses bankrupt, stealing animals and so on?

    I have no problem with Veganism as a diet and clothing choice if that's the lifestyle they want to live, but they are losing their collective minds:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/melbourne-vegan-protest-blocks-trams-traffic-causes-chaos/10980056

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/gippy-goat-cafe-closes-amid-contant-vegan-activist-abuse/news-story/6ba17ab6d2fbee44a46bd042a242e54d
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 09:26

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      Donald Chief Commissioner

    Location: Donald. Duck country.
    I would've loved to stand in front of them eating a hamburger or bacon & egg sanger.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 10:05
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    Probably members of PETA.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 10:08
      michaelgm Chief Commissioner

    I would've loved to stand in front of them eating a hamburger or bacon & egg sanger.
    Donald
    A dogs eye smothered in dead horse!
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 10:12

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      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Probably members of PETA.
    Aaron
    Probably not.

    PETA is a scam established for the benefit of celebrities who need a tax write-off and/or a publicity boost not involving a sex tape. No way would they get involved with anything like this which involves the risk of violent retaliation or arrest.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 11:03
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    What is it with these crazy eco-fascist nutters blocking city streets and trams, chaining themselves to cars, sending businesses bankrupt, stealing animals and so on?

    I have no problem with Veganism as a diet and clothing choice if that's the lifestyle they want to live, but they are losing their collective minds:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/melbourne-vegan-protest-blocks-trams-traffic-causes-chaos/10980056

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/gippy-goat-cafe-closes-amid-contant-vegan-activist-abuse/news-story/6ba17ab6d2fbee44a46bd042a242e54d
    Carnot
    Veganism is the late 20th century religion. Why someone cannot just sit there and enjoy their carrots and cucumber in peace is beyond me. I mean the flavor must be that good they have to broadcast it.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 11:52
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Serious disruptions in the city at the moment.  Heading from Uni to the office and the route 6 trams were turning right into Latrobe Street from Swanston Street to run around the chaos.

    These points are seldom used I believe.

    I have attached a video:

    https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1199

    (cross posted to trams and lightrail)
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 12:02
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    What is it with these crazy eco-fascist nutters blocking city streets and trams, chaining themselves to cars, sending businesses bankrupt, stealing animals and so on?

    I have no problem with Veganism as a diet and clothing choice if that's the lifestyle they want to live, but they are losing their collective minds:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/melbourne-vegan-protest-blocks-trams-traffic-causes-chaos/10980056

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/gippy-goat-cafe-closes-amid-contant-vegan-activist-abuse/news-story/6ba17ab6d2fbee44a46bd042a242e54d
    Veganism is the late 20th century religion. Why someone cannot just sit there and enjoy their carrots and cucumber in peace is beyond me. I mean the flavor must be that good they have to broadcast it.
    RTT_Rules
    It has become a cult.  These activists on the street today are really a bunch of thieving extortionists, narcissists, and anarchists.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 12:16
      don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Electricity disconnections are up 35% in Vic and SA has the highest rate of disconnections in the nation. Poor people can't afford electricity any longer - THAT'S a crisis.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 12:41
      KRviator Moderator

    Location: Up the front
    I can't understand those nutters. I mean, you think they would be happy for us carnivores. Think about it, our food eats their food. So by slaughtering a cow for the BBQ, that means more rabbit food for them...
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 12:44
      SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
    Vegan activists are not mad; they are criminal.

    I have no issue if they want to choose their dietary way of life. Live and let live.

    However, when last I looked, trespass harassment and intimidation were actually illegal. Yet these are the tactics they use, and get publicity over.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 12:50
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    It has become a cult.  These activists on the street today are really a bunch of thieving extortionists, narcissists, and anarchists.
    Carnot
    Veganism is a cult, but their ritualistic sacrificing of sweet potatoes are pretty boring.

    Isn't there a large TV screen or similar in the centre of Melbourne? I am thinking there's a specific scene from Apocalypse Now that could be played up there - that'd make them go away.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 13:01
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    An cousin of mine had a farm property in southern NSW and, some years ago, a gang of protesters decided to descend on him in protest about some alleged sin.
    He began peacefully by telling them they were trespassing and asking them to leave. They refused, so he and his sons went off and collected their stockwhips and dogs and literally drove them off. The screams went up about "peaceful protest" and "our rights", and his reply was simple; "You stage another invasion and we'll exercise our rights again." I never heard of any subsequent action by anyone, so I assume he won the day.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 13:53

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      RedEyeExpress Junior Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne
    I've noticed that from time-to-time, activists for various causes (often the same individuals no doubt) block the Swanston/Flinders intersection at busy times. That behaviour is becoming normalized as the authorities seem to take no action to remove them.
    Does anyone know whether these activists seek permission from or at least notify the police/Council/Yarra Trams in advance?
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 14:13
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    This occupation of a major intersection must be the most self-defeating action that any mob could take. Do these people seriously believe they're gaining goodwill by disrupting others who just want to about their normal business?
    Protest all you like, but do it in Fed Square or the gardens.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 16:32
      SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
    Imagine the uproar if someone sprayed glyphosate on the national kale crop.

    Legal disclaimer- I am not suggesting anyone should do so.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 18:06
      LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

    Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
    This occupation of a major intersection must be the most self-defeating action that any mob could take. Do these people seriously believe they're gaining goodwill by disrupting others who just want to about their normal business?
    Protest all you like, but do it in Fed Square or the gardens.
    Valvegear
    Well, y'all seem to be turning a nice shade of tomato red getting irritated about them so I think they've succeeded with what they set out to do. No-one pays attention until you make a nuisance. You are giving them attention. They win.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 18:12
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    Well, y'all seem to be turning a nice shade of tomato red getting irritated about them so I think they've succeeded with what they set out to do. No-one pays attention until you make a nuisance. You are giving them attention. They win.
    "LancedDendrite"
    It was, indeed, impossible to ignore them. Yes, they are generating attention, but it's the wrong kind of attention. They don't understand that you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar. They just made themselves a whole lot of new enemies.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 18:48
      LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

    Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
    Well, y'all seem to be turning a nice shade of tomato red getting irritated about them so I think they've succeeded with what they set out to do. No-one pays attention until you make a nuisance. You are giving them attention. They win.
    It was, indeed, impossible to ignore them. Yes, they are generating attention, but it's the wrong kind of attention. They don't understand that you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar. They just made themselves a whole lot of new enemies.
    Valvegear
    Any publicity is good publicity, as the current US president has demonstrated.

    As for the protesters making 'new enemies', judging by the very tired insults being thrown about on this thread I'm fairly certain that there was plenty of existing hatred for vegans.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 19:31
      ANR Chief Commissioner

    I can't stand cruelty to vegetables...the way they are put on a plate and ignored or eaten last or even thrown in the trash because the person having them on the dinner plate prefers the smell and taste of steak, or chicken or fish.

    Something must be done about it.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 19:51
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    As for the protesters making 'new enemies', judging by the very tired insults being thrown about on this thread I'm fairly certain that there was plenty of existing hatred for vegans.
    "LancedDendrite"
    I'd say plenty of existing dislike for vegans, and I'd bet that a lot more has been added from the people who previously ignored them. They're not achieving anything except getting more people offside. One of them was stupid enough to say on 7 News that they don't care if people don't like them. When asked what that would achieve, there was no answer.
    Posted: 08 Apr 2019 20:49
      billybaxter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
    You've got to give them credit for standing up for what they believe in, I reckon most of the soapbox orators here wouldn't have the courage to do the same.  As far as causes go, it's pretty benign.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2019 05:59
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    People have a right to protest why should these fools be any different. I bet if a union did it Daniel Andrews would be silent.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2019 08:29
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Norda Fittazroy
    Any publicity is good publicity, as the current US president has demonstrated.
    "LancedDendrite"
    This, of course, is the old Hollywood myth. Trump hasn't demonstrated it at all yet - wait and see if he gets a second term.
    You could also try repeating that old myth to Julian Knight and Martin Bryant for example - they got all the publicity possible, and are in the jug for life.

    You've got to give them credit for standing up for what they believe in, I reckon most of the soapbox orators here wouldn't have the courage to do the same.  As far as causes go, it's pretty benign.
    "billybaxter"
    No problem there; protest all you like.

    People have a right to protest why should these fools be any different.
    "freightgate"
    Of course they do, but they do not have the right to disrupt a city. They inconvenienced thousands, blocked public transport and emergency vehicles without any prior warning and, by their own admission, don't care. I would not want to be in an ambulance on St Kilda Road trying to get to the Royal Melbourne Hospital with these ratbags blocking the way. Many groups hold protest rallies and let the authorities know in advance, so suitable arrangements can be made. This gang could do the same.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2019 09:38
      james.au Minister for Railways

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    I rarely post my own political views here but im in the camp that thinks that activism is too generous a term for these people.  Terrorists isn't quite right but is closer in definition to activism to describe these people.

    Yes there is a role to play to make sure the rough and ready operators on the margins of industry dont unnecessarily and sadistically abuse animals - but at the same time the unnecessary and sadistic abuse of businesses that for the most part care for their animals is unacceptable.
    Posted: 09 Apr 2019 10:31

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