Notre dame cathedral fire

 
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

The western world wouldn't have batted an eyelid if it was a mosque.
DirtyBallast
Then again, much of the Muslim world is barely batting an eyelid over the genocide of the Uighurs and destruction of 800 year old mosques in China:


Many Muslim nations are so beholden to China for aid, that they won't speak up about it....

Meanwhile, Macron and others are trying their level best to be Philistines:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/notre-dame-fire-updates/2019/04/17/00dbbd84-6091-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html

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  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I shudder to think about the moment when the inevitable comment will be made. i.e. "Bulldoze the lot and build something new and modern."
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
I shudder to think about the moment when the inevitable comment will be made. i.e. "Bulldoze the lot and build something new and modern."
Valvegear
Well, it was new and modern at one stage, wasn't it? Imagine the horror of the people of the time that it didn't replicate older buildings then?
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I shudder to think about the moment when the inevitable comment will be made. i.e. "Bulldoze the lot and build something new and modern."
Valvegear
Won't happen, its not that far gone.

Also think Germany, look at photos of places like Cologne, they rebuilt much of it the way it was.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Now there is talk about Australia donating money for the restoration of the church.  Why?

Have not yet seen the Vatican make announcements regarding funding?
bevans
I recall that neither the French Govt nor the Vatican wanted to contribute funds to the current restoration and were relying on donors.  The good citizens of the US who are tragics for all things French must have chipped in a fair bit.  I wish I had kept the original article.  I am staggered by the amount of money that has been pledged by some people within 24 hrs of the disaster.  

How much more is lying around in lazy accounts?  

May be a good reason to again raise the subject of removing the tax free status of religious and quasi religious organisations that don't contribute to the community in a tangible manner.

I assume there wasn't a basic fire suppression system in the Cathedral?  If not, then both the Govt and the Church are negligent.

Correct me if I am wrong on the above.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Well, it was new and modern at one stage, wasn't it? Imagine the horror of the people of the time that it didn't replicate older buildings then?
"DirtyBallast"
Why should a new building have replicated older buildings when it was built? There is a vast difference between building something new, and the repair or renovation of something old.

Won't happen, its not that far gone.
"RTT_Rules"
I agree. I don't think it will happen; I'm just waiting for the inevitable loony to show up.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
The western world wouldn't have batted an eyelid if it was a mosque.
Then again, much of the Muslim world is barely batting an eyelid over the genocide of the Uighurs and destruction of 800 year old mosques in China:


Many Muslim nations are so beholden to China for aid, that they won't speak up about it....

Meanwhile, Macron and others are trying their level best to be Philistines:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/notre-dame-fire-updates/2019/04/17/00dbbd84-6091-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html
Carnot

Fair point......

But for balance you could have also have highlighted the fact that most Christians couldn't give a toss about the plight of Christians from Gaza being prevented by the Israeli government from attending Easter celebrations on the West Bank this month.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

Personally I would ask this question if one of our cathedrals in Sydney or Melbourne or elsewhere should suffer the same fate how many would come out of the woodwork 24 hours after the event pledging big money to rebuild it. And who overseas would actually donate money to the cause here, probably no one at all which leads me to believe that Australia does not need to pledge any money to rebuilding a cathederal in Paris. I accept that notre Dame is famous, but it really is just another cathederal nothing more.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
David, the reason that no one internationally would give a smeg about an Australian cathedral is that we don’t have a cathedral of significant age. None of our cathedrals are especially important in architecture, they’re built to replicate a style, and were not built in the truly defining style of their period.

I am a proud atheist.

I am perfectly happy to see Notre Dame rebuilt. Leaving the religion out of it, it is a truly elegant and historical artefact. That basis alone qualifies it as deserving preservation.

I would be perfectly happy to see the Blue Mosque restored should something similar happen to it during its current and ongoing renovation/restoration.

Equally, I would expect that should the Pantheon collapse that the world would see it restored - and I don’t think there is even one person alive today that actually (properly) worships Athena...

It’s about the building, not the religion contained within.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I am perfectly happy to see Notre Dame rebuilt. Leaving the religion out of it, it is a truly elegant and historical artefact. That basis alone qualifies it as deserving preservation.

I would be perfectly happy to see the Blue Mosque restored should something similar happen to it during its current and ongoing renovation/restoration.

Equally, I would expect that should the Pantheon collapse that the world would see it restored - and I don’t think there is even one person alive today that actually (properly) worships Athena...

It’s about the building, not the religion contained within.
"Aaron"
Well said, and spot on.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
David, the reason that no one internationally would give a smeg about an Australian cathedral is that we don’t have a cathedral of significant age. None of our cathedrals are especially important in architecture, they’re built to replicate a style, and were not built in the truly defining style of their period.

I am a proud atheist.

I am perfectly happy to see Notre Dame rebuilt. Leaving the religion out of it, it is a truly elegant and historical artefact. That basis alone qualifies it as deserving preservation.

I would be perfectly happy to see the Blue Mosque restored should something similar happen to it during its current and ongoing renovation/restoration.

Equally, I would expect that should the Pantheon collapse that the world would see it restored - and I don’t think there is even one person alive today that actually (properly) worships Athena...

It’s about the building, not the religion contained within.
Aaron
Anyone doubting the above might want to check out the two links below

https://earthnworld.com/famous-churches-in-the-world/

https://www.speakingtree.in/allslides/10-most-visited-holy-places-of-the-world/265503
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Westminster Abbey did well - it scored both numbers 5 and 15 in the earthnworld list. The examples of ornate architecture shown are mind-blowing. I have visited some, and will try to see others.
The speakingtree was unfortunately not speaking to me.
  DjulfinFox Beginner

It's horrible. He stood for so many years and lived through so many stories. I read that it will be restored. And valuable relics survived.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
The western world wouldn't have batted an eyelid if it was a mosque.
Then again, much of the Muslim world is barely batting an eyelid over the genocide of the Uighurs and destruction of 800 year old mosques in China:


Many Muslim nations are so beholden to China for aid, that they won't speak up about it....

Meanwhile, Macron and others are trying their level best to be Philistines:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/notre-dame-fire-updates/2019/04/17/00dbbd84-6091-11e9-bf24-db4b9fb62aa2_story.html
Carnot
This is what happens at Mecca and Medina, why would they care what happens in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_early_Islamic_heritage_sites_in_Saudi_Arabia

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