Big Boy No. 4014

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 17 Apr 2019 13:36
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Did UP choose the 4024 for any particular reason as other units were available in other
Museums.

Big Boy No. 4014

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  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.
michaelgm

I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same.  4018 may also be

4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.

I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same.  4018 may also be

4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
x31
When it was moved they cut the piston rods.  There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete.  The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Potentially 4018 could also be restored if the desire was there?
  woodford Chief Commissioner

UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.

I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same.  4018 may also be

4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
When it was moved they cut the piston rods.  There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete.  The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.
Groover
Although 4014 was housed outside in Pomona it only rains for around less than 20 days per year (average max rainfall 17 inches) and the Rail Giants Museum regularly serviced the loco which is why UP picked it.

There would be little difficulty in making new piston rods even if they were one piece with the pistons, there are still plenty of forging firms in both Britain and Europe  that can do such work. The problem is likely to be the boilers. For these to be in good condition they would need to have been shut down properly THEN looked after. Shutting down properly means draining the boiler COMPLETELY while it is still hot, then removing some plugs to allow air to flow freely through the boiler to keep it dry.

woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Its worthwhile to remember here that UP checked out all remaining BigBoys before picking 4014 so the others must be in poorer condition.

woodford
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet?  I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet?  I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet?  I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
TheFish
UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.

Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/

No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
  georges Train Controller

Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet?  I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.

Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/

No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
Groover
Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
That is an impressive machine!
Thank heaven for mechanical stokers - who'd want to try hand-firing a box that size?
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Has there actually been any footage of it being steamed/tested yet?  I've seen it mentioned that it has had a fire in it but haven't found anything...
UP have put a brief video on Facebook dated 13 April showing it in steam.

Link is: https://www.facebook.com/unionpacific/videos/10156536696063506/

No videos that I know of outside of FB showing it in steam.
Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/
georges
Can't seem to see either of those and I have a facebook account.
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.

I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same.  4018 may also be

4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
When it was moved they cut the piston rods.  There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete.  The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.
Groover
4018's piston rods were cut in the early 1960's, not as part of its 2013 move.

The pity in some ways was that UP stored 4023 at Cheyanne, with 3985, for many years with perhaps a long term view towards overhaul in some far distant (from 1962's perspective) time.  It ended up in 'that' park, almost irrecoverable.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
That is an impressive machine!
Thank heaven for mechanical stokers - who'd want to try hand-firing a box that size?
Valvegear
it now runs on the black goo America invades for
  georges Train Controller

Or, if you're not an FB member, - https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/
Can't seem to see either of those and I have a facebook account.
TheFish
When I made that link the FB page was accessible to all and contained a video of 4014 in regular steam service, including some shots of its driving controls. The page has changed since then, becoming accessible only to FB members and, so far as I can tell, omitting the video.

Here is an alternative, a teaser for a commercial DVD on all members of the 4000 class in operation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8f9VFlNyDQ&feature=youtu.be
  georges Train Controller

When too much is never enough!

4003 and 4013 in action


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akvLweWOd0g

Brief look at a working 4014
https://www.facebook.com/Union-Pacific-Big-Boy-Locomotive-104984082869998/

Static 4023. Some detailed shots


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc9ldZoONe0
  Groover Train Controller

Location: A long way from home
UP inspected other locos and determinded 4014 to be in the most suitable condition for reactivation. The museum was prepared to exchange it for some replacement items.

I was surprised myself as some of the other units were housed indoors with 4014 housed outdoors in Califiornia. 4005 I think is undercover 4006 and 4012 the same.  4018 may also be

4018 was moved by rail between museums in 2013 although not under steam that I can find.
When it was moved they cut the piston rods.  There was a plan in the late 1990's to reactivate 4018 for a movie; prior to the "vandalism" on the piston rods. When I visited 4014 it was regarded as the most complete.  The staff told me that when they needed to move 4014, a gentle shove from tractor was all that was required.
4018's piston rods were cut in the early 1960's, not as part of its 2013 move.

The pity in some ways was that UP stored 4023 at Cheyanne, with 3985, for many years with perhaps a long term view towards overhaul in some far distant (from 1962's perspective) time.  It ended up in 'that' park, almost irrecoverable.
Spinner5711
Correct, they were cut on the move to the original museum.  My apologies.
  georges Train Controller

Hear that lonesome whistle blow!



https://youtu.be/dWpODg11xkI

Why are there two threads on this subject?

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