Qantas launches direct Bendigo-Sydney service

 
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Apparently very strong bookings right through to late-April.  Most planes are full or close to full.  They might need to do the upgrades for Q400 planes quicker than they thought?

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  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Apparently very strong bookings right through to late-April.  Most planes are full or close to full.  They might need to do the upgrades for Q400 planes quicker than they thought?
Carnot
Very happy to hear this.

Though perhaps REX should jump on the route whilst its going hot and ride the QF bandwagon?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Apparently very strong bookings right through to late-April.  Most planes are full or close to full.  They might need to do the upgrades for Q400 planes quicker than they thought?
Very happy to hear this.

Though perhaps REX should jump on the route whilst its going hot and ride the QF bandwagon?
james.au
The issue for REx would be getting extra landing slots at Sydney Airport.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Apparently very strong bookings right through to late-April.  Most planes are full or close to full.  They might need to do the upgrades for Q400 planes quicker than they thought?
Very happy to hear this.

Though perhaps REX should jump on the route whilst its going hot and ride the QF bandwagon?
The issue for REx would be getting extra landing slots at Sydney Airport.
Carnot
Not an insurmountable one though.  Particularly if they play the regional card.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Slightly off topic but lost of talk about extending the life of Qantas Dash 8 since the requested airport upgrades are not likely at Norfolk Island to allow bigger aircraft.

Certainly excellent news on the Bendigo services, makes you wonder what Ballarat could or  might look like?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Slightly off topic but lost of talk about extending the life of Qantas Dash 8 since the requested airport upgrades are not likely at Norfolk Island to allow bigger aircraft.

Certainly excellent news on the Bendigo services, makes you wonder what Ballarat could or  might look like?
bevans
Norfolk Island isn't the problem, Lord Howe is.  They can't take a Q400 (or Q300 IIRC)and the Saab340s are not able to do it (I think accreditiation wise, not physically).  The Q200s are in the fleet to do the LDH work and that's it.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Slightly off topic but lost of talk about extending the life of Qantas Dash 8 since the requested airport upgrades are not likely at Norfolk Island to allow bigger aircraft.

Certainly excellent news on the Bendigo services, makes you wonder what Ballarat could or  might look like?
Norfolk Island isn't the problem, Lord Howe is.  They can't take a Q400 (or Q300 IIRC)and the Saab340s are not able to do it (I think accreditiation wise, not physically).  The Q200s are in the fleet to do the LDH work and that's it.
james.au
Yep, general rule of thumb is 3000 ft of runway for a 200 (that's Lord Howe), 4000ft for a Q300, and 5000 ft for a Q400.

Qantaslink's Dash-8-200 planes are getting old (built 1996-2000) but fairly low in their cycle count I believe.  There's nothing really comparable that's brand-new today, so they'll soldier on for many years yet I imagine.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks for clearing that up guys.
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Sorry still Off Topic, talking about Lord Howe and aircraft. Agree with Carnot, however will be interesting if Longview does anything with the older Q200 line (along with the others) that it recently acquired from Bombardier. This is the same business that revived the DHC6!

With Lord Howe could an ATR45 do the job? It would meet runway length, but I am unsure of range. Now I am not saying that Qantas would do that as they are renown for their fleet management and are very unlikely to introduce another type, however Qantaslink is does contract out services if it suits the business eg Cobham.

But as discussed the most likely outcome will be a refurb of the older Qs.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Sorry still Off Topic, talking about Lord Howe and aircraft. Agree with Carnot, however will be interesting if Longview does anything with the older Q200 line (along with the others) that it recently acquired from Bombardier. This is the same business that revived the DHC6!

With Lord Howe could an ATR45 do the job? It would meet runway length, but I am unsure of range. Now I am not saying that Qantas would do that as they are renown for their fleet management and are very unlikely to introduce another type, however Qantaslink is does contract out services if it suits the business eg Cobham.

But as discussed the most likely outcome will be a refurb of the older Qs.
Big J
None of the ATR-42 series has the range to get to Lord Howe Island, the AT-72 has but needs 4500ft of runway.

woodford
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
LDH is a parricularly challenging airport to deal with from this perspective
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

LDH is a parricularly challenging airport to deal with from this perspective
james.au
Beechcraft Super King Airs are also a regular feature at LDH, but they only have one-third of the passenger capacity as the Dash 8.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Perhaps they should go back to alighting in the lagoon and introduce one of these (yes its no doubt a photoshopped pic).

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  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Sorry still Off Topic, talking about Lord Howe and aircraft. Agree with Carnot, however will be interesting if Longview does anything with the older Q200 line (along with the others) that it recently acquired from Bombardier. This is the same business that revived the DHC6!

With Lord Howe could an ATR45 do the job? It would meet runway length, but I am unsure of range. Now I am not saying that Qantas would do that as they are renown for their fleet management and are very unlikely to introduce another type, however Qantaslink is does contract out services if it suits the business eg Cobham.

But as discussed the most likely outcome will be a refurb of the older Qs.
None of the ATR-42 series has the range to get to Lord Howe Island, the AT-72 has but needs 4500ft of runway.

woodford
woodford
Thanks for clarifying woodford.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
With the announcement from the ALP to provide funding to lengthen the runway at Ballarat should we consider this to be the first step in flight expansion at Ballarat as someone would have requested the money.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

With the announcement from the ALP to provide funding to lengthen the runway at Ballarat should we consider this to be the first step in flight expansion at Ballarat as someone would have requested the money.
bevans
I don't know if you have noticed this yet, but there is a federal election campaign running at the moment and all sorts of vanity projects get promises of funding purely on the potential votes on offer rather than merit.

Half of them never see any real action, so probably best to not worry too much about this one just yet.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

With the announcement from the ALP to provide funding to lengthen the runway at Ballarat should we consider this to be the first step in flight expansion at Ballarat as someone would have requested the money.
bevans
They must be listening to a lot of Shannon Noll...  "What about me?, it isn't fair....."

Update on Qantaslink Bgo service:  Loading has been very good, even in the quiet month of May.  Generally 60 - 100% load factor from all accounts.  Although on one night last week a smaller Dash 8-200 made an appearance.

Sydney Airport (being the usual Sydney Airport) and a few maintenance issues have been a source of delays lately.  One Dash-8 had an extended stay in Bendigo to fix some faults with it last week.

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