Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

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  simstrain Chief Commissioner

This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
bevans

Metro west is already in planning with finance and adding extra federal money isn't going to fast track anything because the NSW government already has plans well advanced for construction starting in 2020.

As for the VIC/NSW discussion that is silly since Melbourne is only growing slightly faster and unlike Sydney your rail system is well placed to handle the growth if someone competent was in charge of the rail system. Doncaster aside you have rail almost everywhere it needs to go and a tram system.

Vic is getting plenty of federal money for the airport line ($5 billion) and the geelong fast rail ($2 billion) and yet there hasn't been a single piece of direct federal funding for our new metro lines and Victoria is complaining about too much money being spent in Sydney.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
bevans
Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?

Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.

Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

Metro west is already in planning with finance and adding extra federal money isn't going to fast track anything because the NSW government already has plans well advanced for construction starting in 2020.
simstrain
Timing won't change and basically cannot change, Sydney can only support so many major rail projects at once, with the NWRL project winding down, this workforce will become available for Metro West which is proposed to start next year which is the time-frame announced by GB.

All the article is stating is to get SCOMO to commit to the money he promised.

Note the article again states the Metrowest project is designed to provide relief for the T1.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

When did scomo promise money for metro west? Labor promised money but the libs did not.

To be honest during the recent campaigns it all looked like everybody wanted a piece of Gladys pie in NSW. Both fed and state labor promised to build something that the libs already had in planning meanwhile scomo went and got the votes that really mattered in QLD and didn't have to do much in NSW since Gladys could do that for him.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?

Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.

Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!
I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.

"The NSW Treasurer wants more commonwealth cash for his state's big road, rail and airport projects."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/nsw-wants-roads-rail-funding-from-budget

Drawing a semantic distinction about which modes have been funded and which have not makes no sense, because ultimately a rail dollar and a road dollar have the same budget impact. If the Feds fund a road for NSW, that gives them capital to build train lines - I would have though that's fairly obvious.

Although it represents only part of the federal infrastructure funding, from 2014 to 2017 NSW had $13.9b deposited under the NPA, while Victoria had only $8.5b.

A cynic might even suggest that the federal funding is directed to smaller projects so the NSW Government gets big ribbon-cutting opportunities all to itself.

Edit: here's a source that does the sums. Look at those graphs and tell me a) NSW is "self-funded" and b) Victoria is not being dudded in favour of Queensland and WA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064