Adani changes to narrow gauge

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Adani has now updated their permanent jobs to 150 only.  Why on earth was there so much focus on a project that would employ so few at the end of the construction phase?

The choice of using the NG network means less rail build also.

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  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Adani has now updated their permanent jobs to 150 only.  Why on earth was there so much focus on a project that would employ so few at the end of the construction phase?

The choice of using the NG network means less rail build also.
bevans

The situation with Adani is as complex as any political football Australia has created in the last decade. The facts as they stand at the moment.

- Since the beginning of this project in 2010, Adani has already spent $3.3-billion, and that's without a hole in the ground or a railway.

- The Townsville Headquarters for Adani, opened in 2017 by Premier Annastacia Palaszcuk, already employs 150 staff, with the company committed (as an approval requirement) to employing 750 FIFO/DIDO workers from Townsville for the next thirty years, worth $90-million per annum to the city.

- Adani has owned the Abbot Point coal terminal since 2011 - after paying $1.83-billion. I can't quickly find the total number of staff currently employed there, but the port handled 27.992-million tonnes of export coal 2017/2018 and has a capacity of 50-million tonnes.

- The downsizing of the mine from 60-million tonnes to 27.5-million tonnes per annum reduces the size of the permanent and construction workforces from the numbers that were widely circulated prior to 2018. Current expectations will be a permanent mine workforce from Rockhampton and Townsville of 1500 staff (around the same as the largest Bowen Basin Mines). Construction is expected to require 1500 temporary positions and another 6500 indirect jobs from suppliers.

- 14,000 job applications have so far been received.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Adani has now updated their permanent jobs to 150 only.  Why on earth was there so much focus on a project that would employ so few at the end of the construction phase?

The choice of using the NG network means less rail build also.

The situation with Adani is as complex as any political football Australia has created in the last decade. The facts as they stand at the moment.

- Since the beginning of this project in 2010, Adani has already spent $3.3-billion, and that's without a hole in the ground or a railway.

- The Townsville Headquarters for Adani, opened in 2017 by Premier Annastacia Palaszcuk, already employs 150 staff, with the company committed (as an approval requirement) to employing 750 FIFO/DIDO workers from Townsville for the next thirty years, worth $90-million per annum to the city.

- Adani has owned the Abbot Point coal terminal since 2011 - after paying $1.83-billion. I can't quickly find the total number of staff currently employed there, but the port handled 27.992-million tonnes of export coal 2017/2018 and has a capacity of 50-million tonnes.

- The downsizing of the mine from 60-million tonnes to 27.5-million tonnes per annum reduces the size of the permanent and construction workforces from the numbers that were widely circulated prior to 2018. Current expectations will be a permanent mine workforce from Rockhampton and Townsville of 1500 staff (around the same as the largest Bowen Basin Mines). Construction is expected to require 1500 temporary positions and another 6500 indirect jobs from suppliers.

- 14,000 job applications have so far been received.
Sulla1
Grrat summary.

There occasionally comes a time when other states should back out of one states business, this is one of them.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Adani has received its final approvals this morning, construction is set to begin within the next few weeks. No word if the rail construction will get underway at the same time.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Adani has received its final approvals this morning, construction is set to begin within the next few weeks. No word if the rail construction will get underway at the same time.
Sulla1

With the amount of additional coal coming into Abbott Point can we assume there will be rail upgrades needed to make this happen in and around the port including a new yard perhaps multi user?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

There hasn't been any details released regarding increasing capacity on the Aurizon owned network. Aurizon and PN use Aurizon's Pring yard to stage for movements to the port, I'd assume Pring will need a few additional roads to cater for the Adani traffic.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There hasn't been any details released regarding increasing capacity on the Aurizon owned network. Aurizon and PN use Aurizon's Pring yard to stage for movements to the port, I'd assume Pring will need a few additional roads to cater for the Adani traffic.
Sulla1

have the cal'c on the number of trains actually required been done and are capacity upgrades required on the main line for the additional coal traffic?

Maybe SSR can apply to run the trains?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Adani will probably want to run its own trains, but it may do a deal with Aurizon if that helps to pay for additional loops or duplication. We will have to wait and see what gets announced.

Aurizon's Newlands system and infrastructure will see around a 90% increase in tonnage, so capacity increases will be required.
  GS4 Train Controller

So will that mean about 8 to 10 loaded trains to Abbott Point per day ?  ... assuming all trains go to that port.

I've been train watching on the Newlands line and there certainly some quite long periods between trains (hours at a time) , , maybe it only occurs when there is a camera around  Smile.


If there is say 10 loaded trains (very rough estimate) and 10 empties will that mean 60 to 80 or so more locos ?   We're back to the old question of what brand of locomotive.

Whatever it is it will be interesting.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

Based on current export tonnages, Aurizon and PN are running on average eleven loaded trains to Abbot Point each day. Adani intends to run 120 wagon trains with three locomotives, and if production reaches 27-million tonnes, that will be seven loaded trains per day.

To haul 120 wagon trains with three locomotives, Adani will most likely need locomotives in the 3800-4600hp range, so I'd say the Progress EMD GT46CU-ACe model could be a front runner and Wabtec GE may offer the ES40ACi model used in South Africa. The less than stellar performances of PN's 88s and PHs may warn Adani off these models, but who knows. I'd say around thirty locomotives in that power range will be needed.
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
Based on current export tonnages, Aurizon and PN are running on average eleven loaded trains to Abbot Point each day. Adani intends to run 120 wagon trains with three locomotives, and if production reaches 27-million tonnes, that will be seven loaded trains per day.

To haul 120 wagon trains with three locomotives, Adani will most likely need locomotives in the 3800-4600hp range, so I'd say the Progress EMD GT46CU-ACe model could be a front runner and Wabtec GE may offer the ES40ACi model used in South Africa. The less than stellar performances of PN's 88s and PHs may warn Adani off these models, but who knows. I'd say around thirty locomotives in that power range will be needed.
Sulla1
Now that Adani has a green light for it's project and is going to build it's own rail link to connect with Aurizon's network perhaps the connecting line should be constructed with full height dual gauge concrete sleepers and to the same SG clearances as the heavy haul SG railways in the Pilbera with a view to eventual conversion to SG all the way to Gladstone if Adani ramps up it's production to the 60 million tonnes that was originally proposed, such a line would provide capacity for some of the other mines proposed for Central Queensland.

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