IOR Bulk Tankers

 
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  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Love these gunzel reports covering various wagons and this one is new to me.  How and where are these "fuel containers" used?

They look like rolls royce fuel pods with stairs.  where are they loaded/unloaded?

IOR Bulk Tankers

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

IOR supply diesel and aviation fuel to customers using these fuel tanks. A mine site, for example, might have one of these dropped off regularly and the empty one taken away.

IOR also run their own truck fuel stops (I've seen one outside Port Augusta) which use these fuel tanks to allow a far simpler setup than the conventional arrangement of underground tanks. These truck stops are unmanned and the tanks self-report the inventory level back to base.

I think it's a great example of a distribution business working to find ways to make a pro-rail approach work for them when they could easily have stuck with using exclusively road transport. The fuel tank is self-contained from when it leaves an IOR depot to when it arrives at a private site, fuel stop or air strip - no need for pumping out fuel from rail tankers into road tankers and then pumping out the fuel (again) into an on-site fixed tank.

I don't know the specific locations involved for the parts of their supply chain which use rail. My guess is they would use rail to move them to/from various regional depots located near intermodal facilities and dispatch them on trucks from there.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
They look like a larger, commercial version of the old Army Tank/Pump Assembly we used to cart around. They had a handcrank-started diesel engine, IIRC around 2500L capacity and were used to refuel everything from motorbikes to Black Hawks and King Airs.


  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Are these really liquid/fuel containers as we are being led to believe?
They are a strange shape for liquid and they do not appear to carry Dangerous Goods placards?
Could they not be dry goods containers for such such as polystyrene bean bag balls etc that can be loaded/unloaded pneumatically?
Just wondering.
  br30453 Chief Train Controller

Are these really liquid/fuel containers as we are being led to believe?
They are a strange shape for liquid and they do not appear to carry Dangerous Goods placards?
Could they not be dry goods containers for such such as polystyrene bean bag balls etc that can be loaded/unloaded pneumatically?
Just wondering.
YM-Mundrabilla
They are frac tanks:
From IOR website:
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PS. My son works for the company.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
If they were dry goods then why the ladder to the roof of the containers?

If it is fuel then it is a great way to use rail but still at a loss what they would be doing on the PS6 service?

Great to see rail being used for fuel we should have more of it.  Opportunity to use these wagons on the Darwin or NT services?
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
They are a strange shape for liquid and they do not appear to carry Dangerous Goods placards?
YM-Mundrabilla
Good pickup!
  br30453 Chief Train Controller

They are a strange shape for liquid and they do not appear to carry Dangerous Goods placards?
Good pickup!
KRviator

Advice from my son who works for IOR.

Those tanks are definitely Fracking liquid tanks, and are empty, being transported to sites where they are used for temporary storage of clean, processed or effluent water

We have similar tanks for Diesel but don’t know if any are transported by rail.

The Diesel tanks are filled from Tanker, our Trucks have pumps fitted. They are transported empty by truck and have web based guaging and are filled when low.
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
Diesel is a combustible, and has no DG classification, hence no DG placard affixed to tanks.
These pods, as they are not baffled, are not to be hauled with liquid in them, the 'free surface effect' could make life interesting. There are warning signs on them not to be hauled other than empty. There designed to be moved around empty, set up on site and then filled by tanker as required.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I always thought that diesel being flammable and DG/UN 1202 would, as such, require a DG placard.
(But I have been wrong before).
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
I always thought that diesel being flammable and DG/UN 1202 would, as such, require a DG placard.
(But I have been wrong before).
YM-Mundrabilla
Diesel is not flammable, it is combustible. It is treated differently to petrol under dangerous goods legislation.

The flash point are different.
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
Minimum flashpoint for diesel fuel is 61.5C. Petrol's have a flashpoint less than 61.5C

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