You posted along list of mistakes by Whitlam, not me, starting with giving Kerr the job in the first place..
1. I did not post a list of mistakes. I said they made silly mistakes. Please quote my "long list".
2. Any comment on failings by the Whitlam government was quite clearly stated in the context of the loss in the election following the dismissal.
3. At no time have I said that Whitlam's appointment of Kerr was a mistake. You did say it, and history proves it to be correct. Please put up the quote where I said it.
You say Whitlam was outplayed - it's precisely what I've been saying from square one. Read what I said, namely that Fraser knew how to handle Kerr and Whitlam didn't.
Let's say it one more time. The government was not dismissed on the grounds of incompetence. It is not in the Governor-General's prerogative to do so.
The government was dismissed because it could not guarantee supply. It was a coup by Fraser, Withers, and Kerr.
By the way, what is your opinion of the roles played by Senator Bert Milliner, Senator Cleaver Bunton, Senator Vincent Gair, and Senator Albert Field?
You may think that the dismissal was well deserved - that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Obviously a lot of other people thought it was.
But; at least stick to facts when you discuss it. I'm not sure whether you are playing Agent Provocateur, or are genuinely trying to make a fool of yourself.
1. I previously highlited your comments of his mistakes that you listed a few days back.
1b. There is no such thing as "silly mistakes" for the CEO/PM, if this were actually true a few PM's would have lasted alot long, TA likely being one of them.
2. His mistakes started before, The Dismissal
and extended beyond.
3. No you didn't say hiring Kerr was a mistake, I did. He hired his I believe friend, a lawyer, known to have an alcohol problem and he even wouldn't accept the role until he did extensive reading on the role and what he thought the role should be.
3. The GG dismissed the govt because it was failing at its job to govern, FULL STOP!
4. Yes, Fraser knew how to handle Kerr, Fraser also knew how to play the game better than Whitlam. In the context of Survivor
TV, he was Outwitted
, Out Played
and Out Lasted
. Do I personally think politicians should stoop to this level fighting each other and not focus on running the country? No, but that's politics. Even my current home of a benevolent absolute Monarchy has the same, we just don't see it, nor do are the media allowed to cover it but talk to the locals and you find out whats happening behind closed doors due to the relatively small local population compared to the population of the country.
5. Regarding those Senators, I have no idea. As you said, I was too busy playing in the playground when all this took place. However I appreciate that many adults at the time were sitting on the couch singing "It's Time"
, you can decide who's time was actually.
As I said before,
Forced to election 18mth later, retained roughly same seats
Forced election 1975, ALP lost nearly 50% of their seats
Election 1977, picked up a few seats still under Gough
Election 1979/80, under Hayden, picked up alot more seats
Election 1982, under Hawke, took govt
the people have the final decision and they voted him out in 1975 because he was incompetent and wouldn't let ALP to crawl back until he finally resigned. 90+ seats in a ~127 house is 75% saying good-bye in a big way, even Howard wasn't shown the door with such vengeance, although Rudd was.
EDIT: I think I'll agree to disagree that Whitlam was one of the worst PM's in last 50 years, there is likely others.