Ballarat Integrated Transport Plan – Rail Network

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 11 Jun 2019 16:07
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A really positive approach to engaging with the community and similar in some respects to what has already happened in Bendigo.

A copy of the June Report is available at:

https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads?mode=download.view&id=1200

A survey and questionaire is available by clicking through to https://mysay.ballarat.vic.gov.au/itp-trains/survey_tools/survey

Ballarat Integrated Transport Plan – Rail Network

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Ballarat to Geelong Connectivity

The Regional Rail Revival study found that minor upgrades to the existing line between Geelong and
Ballarat could provide for a passenger rail service operating speed of 130km/h on most of the line. These
relatively low cost works would have a much more reasonable benefit-cost ratio than the entire Bendigo-
Geelong project. The cost of this and other works through the Geelong Freight yards would come to $250-
320M (2012). While the benefit cost ratio of the whole project was found to be low, the cost of the Ballarat
to Geelong upgrade is only 30% of the overall cost, and it would generate 70% of the project benefits. The
benefit cost ratio of the Ballarat-Geelong section is therefore much more favourable than the whole
project.

Connectivity between Ballarat and Geelong has been recognised by the State Government as an important
factor that supports or undermines the future economic potential of both cities and their regions. It is
therefore a critical weakness that public transport services between the two cities consists of four services
per weekday in each direction (49 services per week) compared with 8 services per weekday in each
direction to Ararat (111 per week). For reference Geelong has 20 times the population of Ararat but only
half the service levels to Ballarat.

The rail connection between Ballarat and Geelong is also important for key Victorian strategies including
the Education State. Ballarat has two universities and Geelong has a large presence of Deakin University.

There are many regional students who grow up in one of those cities and enrol in tertiary education in the
other.

The connection to Geelong provides one coach in each direction that meets the needs of a traditional
working day in Geelong, but does not provide any services timed to the needs of a traditional working day
in Ballarat. Patronage estimates show that an increased level of services would be used by the public.
Modelling of train patronage in the Ballarat-Geelong corridor shows that from day one, trains would attract
a very similar level of patronage per train to the services on the Traralgon corridor (around 180 passengers
per train).

Trains from Ballarat to Geelong can also continue to Melbourne. For many decades, Ballarat to Melbourne
trains routinely used the Geelong track to provide counter peak services and improve reliability of peak
direction trains on the Ballarat Melbourne track via Bacchus Marsh. Due to the operating speeds possible
on each track, the trip via Geelong was not much longer than other services in the timetable.

The lack of this option in the current timetable directly impacts on people wishing to travel back to Melbourne from Ballarat between 4 and 6pm on any weekday. There are no trains during that time, and the only alternative
is a road coach departing at 5:15pm. This road coach arrives into Melbourne at 7:15pm, taking more time
than the train would need to travel from Ballarat to Melbourne via Geelong.

In summary, utilising the existing railway track between Ballarat and Geelong could cater for high speed
services that attract a significant number of people and provide greater flexibility and reliability on the
main Ballarat-Melbourne corridor. Such services would have a positive impact on the economies of both
cities and their regions and reinforce State government efforts to create a State of several significant cities.
It would also improve safety on the rural roads linking the cities.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Ballarat to Geelong Connectivity needs updating. It overlooks the fact that Warrenheip - North Geelong will be SG, eg "Trains from Ballarat to Geelong can also continue to Melbourne."
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Ballarat to Geelong Connectivity needs updating. It overlooks the fact that Warrenheip - North Geelong will be SG, eg "Trains from Ballarat to Geelong can also continue to Melbourne."
kitchgp

SG from North Shore station to SCS is way too slow and circuitous to be operating a frequent service on. Better to have a third rail between Ballarat and Geelong so BG trains can travel to Melbourne via Wyndham Vale if required

Mike.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

I think it's better to focus on duplicating the remaining sections of single track between Ballarat and Melbourne before even considering reopening the Geelong - Ballarat rail line to passengers.

This would allow 20-minute frequencies on the Melbourne - Ballarat route in the future.

Also reintroducing light-rail to Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo is another future project that we should be looking at into the future.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I think it's better to focus on duplicating the remaining sections of single track between Ballarat and Melbourne before even considering reopening the Geelong - Ballarat rail line to passengers.

This would allow 20-minute frequencies on the Melbourne - Ballarat route in the future.

Also reintroducing light-rail to Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo is another future project that we should be looking at into the future.
True Believers
Remember Ballarat and Bendigo still have Trams. IIRC Bendigo did attempt a trial for a month but it got nowhere
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: North Haverbrook; where the monorail is king!
I think it's better to focus on duplicating the remaining sections of single track between Ballarat and Melbourne before even considering reopening the Geelong - Ballarat rail line to passengers.

This would allow 20-minute frequencies on the Melbourne - Ballarat route in the future.

Also reintroducing light-rail to Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo is another future project that we should be looking at into the future.
Remember Ballarat and Bendigo still have Trams. IIRC Bendigo did attempt a trial for a month but it got nowhere
Dangersdan707
Ballarat and Bendigo have tourist trams. Ballarat's goes partway around a lake in the middle of the botanic gardens. Bendigo's does indeed pass through the CBD, but doesn't connect with major trip generators like hospitals, train stations or higher education facilities. That's part of why the trial was a failure.

To implement a useful light rail network in either city would require the construction of brand new (isolated) lines or significant track extensions to the existing networks.

Geelong, despite having lost its trams long ago is still just as likely to get a light rail network in future - i.e only a remote possibility.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

VLocitys Ballarat - (Nth) Geelong - Melbourne won't be feasible when Ballarat - Gheringhap is converted to SG under the Murray Basin Rail Project (unless the possible Geelong electrification is SG). The above Ballarat - Geelong Connectivity is based on the LNP-era pre-MBRP 2013 Regional Rail Revival: Geelong-Ballarat-Bendigo study which was costed assuming BG between Geelong and Ballarat. The study needs updating as it would now require such things as SG VLocitys and DG North Geelong - Geelong. There may be savings if it was implemented at the same time as SG Ballarat - Gheringhap or the re-gauging was carried out with a future 115 - 130 km/h passenger service in mind.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I think the biggest part of the document was now the Geelong Ballarat Maryborough and Bendigo proposal was lumped in together and with Geelong and Ballarat only 9as a service between the two regional centres) a large series of benefits actually emerge and are realisable.  Obviously the PTV deliberately did this.  Who get's joy from the continued burrying of rail benefits across the state to delay the implementation of projects which clearly have community benefit which is why the government is there,

It was poor form on the part of vline to remove the service between Geelong and Ballarat anyhow as it was well used.
  x42 Junior Train Controller

Location: NSW
Has consideration been made for a siding in the new Ballarat industrial park and the possibility of a new station at the Lucas development that backs on to the former Skipton line branch with new track built on the existing formation ?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Yes.

M.