Sydney Trains S Set - Scrapping has recommenced :(

 
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

I think the last day of S Sets in service could potentially be on the 28th of June, as AheadMathewawsome has said if the both B24 and T106/T72 both enter/return to service by then and another additional 8 Car Tangara is not taken out of service. Although the Tangara Upgrade has been accelerated, they may not require 2x 8Ts and the reason 2x 8Ts were taken out of service until now, might have been so they could start upgrading the next pair of sets while T72/T106 were testing. This actually makes sense so they may indeed be retired by the 28th but then again, the S Sets might be needed when the next upgraded T Sets are testing and 2x 8Ts are temporarily taken out of service again.

I think the most they will do, is fully withdraw the Sets from regular timetabled service on all lines and they would still be around FMC, occasionally in service for another set (Ks, Cs, Ms and As/Bs).


We will find out in 9 days!

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  S100S28 Station Master

Today S145/S65 have been sent to Chullora scrapyards and S103 is currently testing the wheel lathe at Flemmo.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

This Sunday, June 23, marks 40 years of the Eastern Suburbs Railway.

A Media Event has been scheduled to acknowledge this occasion, with Dignitaries and Guests, plus a 4car S set.
This train will not convey the General Public.

Indicative times are : From FMC 0931 hours, Sydney Terminal 0952/1006, Hurstville (to gain access to the ESR) 1030/1044,
Bondi Junction 1122/1130, Hurstville 1209/1216, Sydney Terminal 1240/1253, FMC 1312 hours.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Thanks for that interesting info.

Some info on the official opening 23 June 1979

First official train consist

S54 (C3004-D4083-D4082-C3003) and S55 (C3002-T4102-T4101-C3001)

Sydney Tramway Museum - Trolley Wire June 1979 issue Page 18 for a write-up

https://www.sydneytramwaymuseum.com.au/members.old/Trolley_Wire/182%20-%20Trolley%20Wire%20-%20Jun%201979.pdf

Cover Railway History


https://www.facebook.com/groups/NSWRailwaysPastandPresent/permalink/3245249762167481/



ABC article, Shows photo of NSW Premier Neville Wran in cab of C3001 on S55

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-03/curious-sydney-why-bondi-beach-does-not-have-a-train-station/9485454



GETTYIMAGES - C3004 on S54

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/opening-of-eastern-suburbs-railway-the-first-train-to-officially-at-picture-id1080150662?s=612x612


Not sure if it will happen, but certainly would be great if possible for C3001 and T4101 could be part of the consist that commemorates the occasion
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

Not sure if it will happen, but certainly would be great if possible for C3001 and T4101 could be part of the consist that commemorates the occasion
SydneyCider
They could and definitely should. S64 could be used for the occasion or maybe they could reshuffle the consist of certain sets and get both C3001 and T4101 in one set. This is one of the only events where C3001 and T4101 are really important so if they are to put the two together they should do it now.

If they are to do so they would probably swap C3912 with C3001 to lead S28, as S28 has T4101 and is also the only Mortdale set left which retains its original set number.

S28: C3001-T4101-T4050-C3765

(S64: C3912-T4166-T4111-C3935)

They could probably leave it like that after.
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

Very Interesting News! It seems they really did change the consists but not the way I predicted it would. I was pretty surprised when I noticed this. S64 is now paired with S97 and no longer has C3001 and it has been replaced by C3861 from S56. Very weird. I haven’t seen S56 so does this mean S56 has been withdrawn as it is unlikely that C3001 went to S56. The only explanation I can think of would be, C3001 and T4101 were moved there because S54 and S55 were the Sets that opened the line like SydneyCider mentioned and S56 continues on. However, C3861 still had its S56 target plate so it is unlikely. I think the set may have been retired.

S64: C3861-T4111-T4166-C3935

I think it has joined S28 but if that is so then there would be a spare carriage.

Today I have sighted the following:

S99 (48)

S100 (49)

S113/S135 (41)

S140/S61 (L1)

S64/S97 (L2)

S103 (FMC)

S123 (FMC)

S28 (FMC)

No sighting of S56

Cars which have an unknown status:

C3001 (Possibly S28 or S56)

T4101 (Possibly S28 or S56)

C3748

T4018

C3912 (Possibly S28)

I think they will soon start changing consists around again to choose the consist of and build up Sydney Train’s preserved 8 Car Set (2x 4 Car Sets) S4 and S5 as they have first priority. Then the rest of the significant/preserved cars will be sent to other organisations or operators for their share of cars.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Will be interesting to see which set they use, have a feeling it will be, based on the S Set listing on one of the previous pages S28: C3912-T4050-T4101-C3001 and maybe shifted C3912 onto S56 and swapped C3765 onto the other side of S28 in place of C3912.

Wonder which media channels are picking it up?
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

The S Set used for the event was half of S56 +T4101 and C3001 renumbered S54 (red “Mortdale” target plate) to recreate the opening of the line.

The new consist of the sets are:

S28: C3765-T4968-T4050-C3912

S54(Ex S56): C3001 (Ex S64)-T4101 (Ex S28)-T4961-C3862

S64: C3935-T4111-T4166-C3861

I’m pretty sure S54 will be renumbered S56 but I wonder whether they’ll return the cars to their original sets or keep the current consist.

I noticed they fitted C3001 with new doors and given a fresh coat of paint.

Here’s a short documentary celebrating 40 years of the Eastern Suburbans Railway by Transport for NSW.


https://youtu.be/xwqhuflybXI

Edit: The video shows a Sydney Tram in the Eastern Suburbs Line.
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

AheadMathewawsome, s3_gunzel and whoever else said the S Set’s last day of timetabled service is on the 28th of June were correct. As of Monday, the 1st of July, the Olympic Park Line will be operated by 4 Car Tangaras, probably T72 and T106 for their final tests. The 28th of June 2019 will be the last time they are timetabled but I think it won’t be a surprise if we see them on a K Set roster every now and then. Only 5 days left till it’ll become impossible or very hard to find on running services on the network.

Edit: Does anyone know if they’ll still be keeping the 6x 4 Car Back up S Sets
  sydneyshortnorth Junior Train Controller

Location:
8S S140/S61 empty through Strathfield P6 at about 10:30 this morning. Reported on Anytrip as "off-route" Run 744D. Rostered K Set.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Tuesday, June 25, Evening Peak, the following S sets sighted in service:-

Olympic Park Sprint services:-
Trip L2CT 1604 hours Lidcombe to Olympic Park, set S99.
Trip L1DB 1614 hours Lidcombe to Olympic Park, set S100.

Sector 2 (T2, T3, T8) services:-
Trip 65-K (M set Roster) 1641 hours Central to Leppington service, operated with S set consist: S140/61.
Trip 36-F (K set Roster) 1756 hours Central to Leppington service, operated with S set consist: S135/113.

Carlingford Line services operated with K sets:-
Trip 48BC 1626 hours Clyde to Carlingford, operated by set K97.
Trip 49BC 1656 hours Clyde to Carlingford, operated by set K74.
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Late notice posting.

Today, Thursday, June 27, Official Farewell to the S sets at Lavender Bay.

A Commemorative Event has been scheduled to acknowledge this occasion, with Dignitaries and Guests, plus a 4car S set.
This train will not convey the General Public.

Indicative times are:
From FMC 0953 hours, Central 1013/1017, Waverton Neck 1033/1040, North Sydney Car Sidings 1045 hours.
From North Sydney Car Sidings 1115 hours, Waverton Neck 1120/1130, Central 1149/1153, FMC 1213 hours.

However, at time of posting, this train is running approximately 1 hour late.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
777 run was delayed because they actually changed the time on it. Last minute. 1700 yesterday afternoon.

In other news, the last S Set run, is officially the 00:02 Saturday Morning T7 Lidcombe.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

S56 (C3001-T4101-T4161-C3862). The same composition that posed as "S54" for the 40th anniversary of the opening of the ESR (C3001, T4101 also lead that particular train on the day 40 years ago) was the set used for the "Farewell" run today. Channel 7 News footage of the train passing over the Harbour Bridge and onto Lavender Bay where it stood beside Waratah set B24, the last of the 24 Waratah Series 2 trains which is now in service. A quote there from Howard Collins, Sydney Trains CEO states that 14 carriages of the S Sets will be preserved.

https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSsydney/videos/676071196150734/
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

An update just posted to the Transport Heritage NSW facebook page.


https://www.facebook.com/TransportHeritageNSW/posts/1072121852991575

Ten S-Set carriages will be transferred to the NSW Government owned heritage collection managed by Transport Heritage NSW.
A special final farewell event for the S-Sets will take place on Saturday 21 July. Further details on how you can secure tickets will be announced next week.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

This was the actual Channel 7 NEWS segment that appear in the 6pm nightly News.

https://www.facebook.com/7NEWSsydney/videos/2064480663858915/
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
A not so flattering news article.

https://junkee.com/s-set-train-retired/211287
  AheadMatthewawsome Locomotive Driver

Location: Opening Train Lines
28/6/19. The Last Day Of The Silver Sets. (Yes, that is their full name.

Today is the day that regular services with the S Set will end.

Today there was:

S113

S135.

These are the last sets in service.

If you are watching this before the end of the day. YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GO!

Services ended on Midnight.

I came earlier at around 4pm.

In the train. There was not that much fan fair around.

Most did not know that it would be the very last time they could be on a Silver Set.

Only a few people were there to celebrate.

For me myself. Knowing it would be the last time. It was pretty sad.

I went on both. I started on S113. Pretty much nothing there. It was pretty much only me on the carriage on (It was the second carriage. Lidcombe bound. Tell me if you know.) who was there to say goodbye.

When I got to Lidcombe. The Driver told me that it was the last day. Then left. I was waiting for my father. So that was the last time I saw S113.

I met someone at the platform who was just about the only person there who was also saying goodbye. I think he is on here. PM me if you are him. He showed me some videos and photos of some Silver Sets from this month.

I had a pretty long talk to him. Until the doors closed.

There was a Driver who joined in. That train. S135 was the first train he drove. He said that he would miss them. Of course.

That carriage C3871 was I guess the last carriage that had the old doors closing sound. Also the 2nd and 3rd Carriages on S135 would also be the last trailers to have a handbrake in it. As it was a former guards/drivers cab.

I had a talk about my new train lines like that. I also found interesting was that they never cared to change the map during that time. They also removed the little purple sign as well. That would be very rare.

As we came into Olymic Park Station. I sat down. Had a look. Then left. I was pretty sad. But was lucky that I did not cry.

I talked to the OTHER Driver and seen what he thought. He also missed it.

C3871 was the last car that I ever was on a Silver Set. I will be telling my Grandchildren that one day! Laughing

I saw the S135 go for the last time. Going through the tunnels. And that was the end. Of the Silver Set.

Goodbye Silver Sets!

1972-2019
  scott4570 Chief Train Controller

Friday, June 28, Evening Peak, the following S sets sighted in service:-

Olympic Park Sprint services (as mentioned by AheadMatthewawsome in the above post):-
Trip L1CT 1454 hours Lidcombe to Olympic Park, set S135.
Trip L2CN 1524 hours Lidcombe to Olympic Park, set S113.

Carlingford Line services (daytime hours):-
Trip 48BA 1526 hours Clyde to Carlingford, set S100.
Trip 49BA 1556 hours Clyde to Carlingford, set S99.

Sector 2 (T2, T3, T8) services:-
Trip 7--S (B set Roster) 1748 hours Central to Macarthur (via Tempe), sets S61/140.

In Flemington Maintenance Centre at 1530 hours (approx.):- Sets S103 and S123 with Pans Down and Target Plates lifted off.
Also, cars 3862 (in set S56) and 3765 (in set S28).
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
The last S Set service ran as L1FB/L1FC this morning. Completely this morning. L1FA ran into a signal failure and had to trip past a signal so was 8 mins late leaving Lidcombe.

At Olympic Park, us enthusiasts got a photoshoot with the driver.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQZ85uHos7/

It was a fantastic evening, see you all in six months for the Carlingford Line closure.
  AheadMatthewawsome Locomotive Driver

Location: Opening Train Lines
The last S Set service ran as L1FB/L1FC this morning. Completely this morning. L1FA ran into a signal failure and had to trip past a signal so was 8 mins late leaving Lidcombe.

At Olympic Park, us enthusiasts got a photoshoot with the driver.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQZ85uHos7/

It was a fantastic evening, see you all in six months for the Carlingford Line closure.
s3_gunzel
Wait... WHAT?! Carlingford Line is gonna close?! Geeze. Taking more things away then they give. It has been like that since the 1960's! They will stop when I get in!

Please Private Info me about this s3_gunzel. As I am going.
  SydneyCider Chief Train Controller

Just curious, 2 other S set cars that probably don't get much of a mention C3840 and the trailer at Petersham, what exactly is left of those 2 carriages? are they fairly intact?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
The last S Set service ran as L1FB/L1FC this morning. Completely this morning. L1FA ran into a signal failure and had to trip past a signal so was 8 mins late leaving Lidcombe.

At Olympic Park, us enthusiasts got a photoshoot with the driver.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQZ85uHos7/

It was a fantastic evening, see you all in six months for the Carlingford Line closure.
Wait... WHAT?! Carlingford Line is gonna close?! Geeze. Taking more things away then they give. It has been like that since the 1960's! They will stop when I get in!

Please Private Info me about this s3_gunzel. As I am going.
AheadMatthewawsome
Being converted to Light Rail
  C3765 Junior Train Controller

Just curious, 2 other S set cars that probably don't get much of a mention C3840 and the trailer at Petersham, what exactly is left of those 2 carriages? are they fairly intact?
SydneyCider
The two carriages are used their to train staff to work with similar trains such as the V Sets, K Sets and C Sets. The seats in them were moved to 2 K Set Carriages year’s a go to replace the Series 1 seats they had. Oddly, C3840 had Series 2 seats. Currently both carriages have no seats and are powered off but I think most of the other mechanical parts are still there to help with training. The drivers controls are definitely still intact. They will probably remain there until the V Sets, K Sets and C Sets are retired and there is no need to train people to drive and maintain old stock.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Wait... WHAT?! Carlingford Line is gonna close?! Geeze. Taking more things away then they give. It has been like that since the 1960's! They will stop when I get in!

Please Private Info me about this s3_gunzel. As I am going.
AheadMatthewawsome


STOP THE PRESSES! I said something that pricked up your ears!

I won't be PMing you about it, for the benefit of all the _other_ users of this website, but from what I've heard, from tomorrow (1 July) the Sandown line is completely closed (not just "service suspended", and the Carlo gets closed around January 5 next year.

No doubt the last train will also be a late night service, if we're lucky, it'll drop pax at Lidcombe. We'll get to do that weird through movement from Platform 1 at Clyde. Or they'll just put us on Platform 2 at Clyde, and then it's a moot point.

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