IDR announces VR W class and NSWGR 7101 locomotives RTR 1/87

 
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Samples of IDR's next model, the VR W class and NSWGR 7101 locomotives can be seen at "the Great Train show" exhibition at Rosehill Gardens this weekend.

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  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Samples of IDR's next model, the VR W class and NSWGR 7101 locomotives can be seen at "the Great Train show" exhibition at Rosehill Gardens this weekend.
Poath Junction

I had a look at the W running yesterday and it looked quite smooth on the demo layout.  

Seems like a strange event to announce it at though, there can't have been that many Victorians heading up this weekend.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Samples of IDR's next model, the VR W class and NSWGR 7101 locomotives can be seen at "the Great Train show" exhibition at Rosehill Gardens this weekend.

I had a look at the W running yesterday and it looked quite smooth on the demo layout.  

Seem s like a strange event to announce it at though, there can't have been that many Victorians heading up this weekend.
lkernan
I was there Saturday, and I ran into a lot of dedicated Victorian modellers Very Happy
This Exhibition probably got extra visitors this year, as we see it as being at least as good as, if not better than the AMRA Liverpool Exhibition. Negatives such as parking and shared venues with massive football crowds will finally end my annual treck up here in October.
As to IDR's release? Well it is several months away from production, and it will undoubedly be shown down south in August at our AMRA Exhibition at Caulfield
The model W Class comes in both versions, and the detail was sharp and it appeared accurate. At $330 it is a $1000 cheaper than the brass one which I do own, and is really great value. Congratulations IDR!
Cheers
Rod
  SeanF Beginner

Samples of IDR's next model, the VR W class and NSWGR 7101 locomotives can be seen at "the Great Train show" exhibition at Rosehill Gardens this weekend.

I had a look at the W running yesterday and it looked quite smooth on the demo layout.  

Seems like a strange event to announce it at though, there can't have been that many Victorians heading up this weekend.
lkernan
Considering that the owner of IDR lives in Sydney and that NSWGR 7101 was built in NSW first and then sold to VR, it only makes sense that the launch be in NSW.
  DJPeters Assistant Commissioner

7101 was only on loan to NSWGR it was painted and lettered etc as a NSWGR but was only really on test with NSWGR and they decided not to order any of them after the testing was concluded, so it was returned to Tullochs to await its fate. It was just lucky that VR bought BG versions of them and rather than convert an existing BG loco to SG they simply bought the 7101 and it was repainted and despatched down to Victoria as a W class. It was later joined by another W on SG as well.

The story is in in several books and the one I read about it was in the Tulloch book that is still available from memory. I think that in NSW the little 71 class loco was to lightweight to be of much use but VR found them useful in places though. Probably different ideas on how to use them and different train loads etc might have also been different.
  SeanF Beginner

7101 was only on loan to NSWGR it was painted and lettered etc as a NSWGR but was only really on test with NSWGR and they decided not to order any of them after the testing was concluded, so it was returned to Tullochs to await its fate. It was just lucky that VR bought BG versions of them and rather than convert an existing BG loco to SG they simply bought the 7101 and it was repainted and despatched down to Victoria as a W class. It was later joined by another W on SG as well.

The story is in in several books and the one I read about it was in the Tulloch book that is still available from memory. I think that in NSW the little 71 class loco was to lightweight to be of much use but VR found them useful in places though. Probably different ideas on how to use them and different train loads etc might have also been different.
DJPeters
DJ Peters this is not quite correct. In the Early Diesel and Electric Locomotives of the NSWGR book, vol1, page 185, "this locomotive was manufactured by Tulloch ltd at Rhodes and given to the NSWGR on 11/11/1960 to use as a demonstrator unit. As a sales promotion, the gesture was too late for the 70 class were in the process of being delivered. The unit was returned to Tulloch in June 1961 who O/H'ed and then sold it to the VR where it was numbered W266. In this guise, on 6/7/1961, it worked the first standard gauge train in Victoria - a ballast train."
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
7101 was only on loan to NSWGR it was painted and lettered etc as a NSWGR but was only really on test with NSWGR and they decided not to order any of them after the testing was concluded, so it was returned to Tullochs to await its fate. It was just lucky that VR bought BG versions of them and rather than convert an existing BG loco to SG they simply bought the 7101 and it was repainted and despatched down to Victoria as a W class. It was later joined by another W on SG as well.

The story is in in several books and the one I read about it was in the Tulloch book that is still available from memory. I think that in NSW the little 71 class loco was to lightweight to be of much use but VR found them useful in places though. Probably different ideas on how to use them and different train loads etc might have also been different.
DJ Peters this is not quite correct. In the Early Diesel and Electric Locomotives of the NSWGR book, vol1, page 185, "this locomotive was manufactured by Tulloch ltd at Rhodes and given to the NSWGR on 11/11/1960 to use as a demonstrator unit. As a sales promotion, the gesture was too late for the 70 class were in the process of being delivered. The unit was returned to Tulloch in June 1961 who O/H'ed and then sold it to the VR where it was numbered W266. In this guise, on 6/7/1961, it worked the first standard gauge train in Victoria - a ballast train."
SeanF
Oh and that's not correct either. SG trains operated in Victoria for many years out of Albury. with SG rails servicing the Military area at Bandianna as well as the Wodonga Sale yards. At least since the war of '39/ 45 The huge crane owned by the military was used many times to gauge convert locomotives heading to or through Victoria.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
S'cuse my igorance, when did IDR come on the scene?
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
S'cuse my igorance, when did IDR come on the scene?
wobert
Been around for a little while and they appear to have a penchant for little models Ha Ha, And they do a great job of making pick ups that eh?   pick up power. Nice people to deal with as well
Rod

https://idrmodels.com.au/
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Thanx Rodly
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller

S'cuse my igorance, when did IDR come on the scene?
Been around for a little while and they appear to have a penchant for little models Ha Ha, And they do a great job of making pick ups that eh?   pick up power. Nice people to deal with as well
Rod

https://idrmodels.com.au/
comtrain
Ian and his wife are the former owners of Hobbyland at Hornsby in Sydney. Agreed nice people to deal with.
  SeanF Beginner

In the latest AMRM, IDR has announced the 71 class and guess what, it will be painted in NSWGR colours. It will also be available in VR blue.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

In the latest AMRM, IDR has announced the 71 class and guess what, it will be painted in NSWGR colours. It will also be available in VR blue.
SeanF
In what other colours could a 71 class be painted?
  SeanF Beginner

In the latest AMRM, IDR has announced the 71 class and guess what, it will be painted in NSWGR colours. It will also be available in VR blue.
In what other colours could a 71 class be painted?
duttonbay
Candy, like the 41 class, but I know Ian wouldn't paint it that colour.
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
VR blue & good, "vline" , original nsw colours, anything else is fantasy ☺️

David head
  M636C Minister for Railways

In the latest AMRM, IDR has announced the 71 class and guess what, it will be painted in NSWGR colours. It will also be available in VR blue.
In what other colours could a 71 class be painted?
duttonbay
At least one original W (ie with the Mercedes Benz engine, not the Detroit 12-149 with the taller hood) was painted in V/Line orange and grey (without V/Line lettering) in preservation. I have photos of it.

That should satisfy anyone who wants orange and grey.

Peter

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