Inland railway Melbourne - Brisbane

 
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Theres going to be some impressive vantage points along that route.  Photo Gunzels will love it.

Plus i can now see where some of the billions are going.

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  SinickleBird Chief Train Controller

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Amazing viaducts in that plan.
  5915 Chief Commissioner

Impressed with the alignment across the Lockyer Valley production area with minimal resumption of productive agricultural land (just one small area just north of Laidley).  One orchard in the Calvert to Kagaru section sectioned out but apart from this, low direct impact (resumption) on high value agricultural land.

5915
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.
simstrain
It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Though if that happens then congestion goes through the roof and there will be regulatory responses to address that.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Plus there is a huge public acceptance discussion to have about atomated trucks.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Amazing viaducts in that plan.
SinickleBird
Will the Murrumbeena based NO Skyrail mob be setting up a sub branch group In the Darling Downs ?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8

What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
  UpperQuad Locomotive Fireman

Location: 184.8 miles to Sydney
The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
simstrain
Are you sure about that, Sims?
  Big J Assistant Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8

What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
simstrain
When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?

I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8

What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?

I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!
Big J

Doesn't the track north of seymour go to shepparton and is it not owned by vline? North east is ARTC and SG. North is BG.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8

What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?

I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!

Doesn't the track north of seymour go to shepparton and is it not owned by vline? North east is ARTC and SG. North is BG.
simstrain
Reading in context is such an underrated skill.

The article does not even use the phrase "north of Seymour", and clearly refers to the ARTC line.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

@simstrain. The Inland Rail route is via Albury and not Shepparton. In fact the first stage is Tottenham to Albury.

Michael
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

@simstrain. The Inland Rail route is via Albury and not Shepparton. In fact the first stage is Tottenham to Albury.

Michael
mejhammers1
I know the inland is via albury but maybe I am mistaken and thought that the farmers were talking about using a different route further inland.
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Gowrie to Helidon Project Update - July 2019



https://youtu.be/A4aWDj3EnSs
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Albanese Tells Farmers They’ve Been Ignored on Inland Rail

https://www.railexpress.com.au/albo-tells-farmers-theyve-been-ignored-on-inland-rail/
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.
It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
Sulla1
The driver costs for a truck is something like $1/t/h for a B-double on the east cost corridor, a fraction of the fuel and other running costs for the truck. New generation of diesel engines will save alot more than this.
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

If Australia goes down the electric route with trucks then god help the rail industry. Electric trucks will be more efficient and cost effective then diesel trains regardless of how much a train can carry.
It won't so much be just electric trucks, but driverless trucks that could, and may very well destroy the rail based intermodal industry. Rail could easily lose most, if not all, traffic tasks where road capacity or lack of regulation is available.
The driver costs for a truck is something like $1/t/h for a B-double on the east cost corridor, a fraction of the fuel and other running costs for the truck. New generation of diesel engines will save alot more than this.
RTT_Rules
It's not just the cost of the driver though. This is a vehicle that theoretically could work almost 24/7/365. No stops for log books or rests, so long distance transit times are slashed and turnarounds accelerated. A single vehicle could potentially achieve the same amount of work as two or three conventional trucks or drivers in a 24-hour period. Driverless vehicle technology promises to be the digital disruption to land transport that Amazon has been to the retail industry. Railroads in North America are already taking the threat seriously, Australian operators should be too - and perhaps they are, looking at Aurizon's rush to abandon intermodal. Of course, the technology will have to prove itself, particularly in the robust Australian transport environment, which may delay its widespread implementation...but it is coming, and it will happen.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
and perhaps they are, looking at Aurizon's rush to abandon intermodal. Of course, the technology will have to prove itself, particularly in the robust Australian transport environment, which may delay its widespread implementation...but it is coming, and it will happen.
Sulla1
I think Aurizon left because it was consistently loss making no?

Re the tech, there will be a huge consumer acceptance piece to get across - having trucks hurtling down the road will be something no politician will entertain if there is even the slightest of safety risks.  Freight doesn't vote remember.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Re the tech, there will be a huge consumer acceptance piece to get across - having trucks hurtling down the road will be something no politician will entertain if there is even the slightest of safety risks.  Freight doesn't vote remember.
james.au
The road freight sector will keep on doing what they have always done to deal with the pesky voting issue - bypass it and buy both major parties.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Re the tech, there will be a huge consumer acceptance piece to get across - having trucks hurtling down the road will be something no politician will entertain if there is even the slightest of safety risks.  Freight doesn't vote remember.
The road freight sector will keep on doing what they have always done to deal with the pesky voting issue - bypass it and buy both major parties.
justapassenger
that only works when their interest and that of the public (ie more roads) is the same.  This will represent a conflict.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

I think I may have needed to emphasise that a little better.

Buying both parties gives them the power to override the public interest. Nobody else is organised enough to form government so there's no other option!
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
https://www.railexpress.com.au/inland-rail-study-to-be-expanded?fbclid=IwAR1jFeRqqVZFONPeB2uwKuHVTlWeWLhsMuOqR9Ewj3aBreVQMoDyNvOi8l8

What the heck is the CSIRO going to achieve with this study. The ARTC doesn't control that track and the track north of seymour is BG and not SG.
When did ARTC reconvert SG back to BG north of Seymour? Are we in 2008?

I am sure Dangersdan707 will be partying tonight in celebration!
Big J
Damm it, my plan has been found out! They Did it on my orders, Next is the Murray Basin to sneakily reconvert followed by Adelaide and Portland.

I'm Holding a Reconversion Party at Seymour tomorrow with a charter with H220 to celebrate this momentous occasion. You are all invited! XD

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