New research provides new insight into seat comfort on trains

 

News article: New research provides new insight into seat comfort on trains

Research by rail industry body RSSB, has led to the first comfort rating scale for designing in an appropriate level of comfort into train seats.

  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
V/line would do well to look at this research when considering the longer distance rolling stock requirements. 

Seat comfort must be a long first to amenities ?

New research provides new insight into seat comfort on trains

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  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
The so-called lumbar support in V'locity seats can be uncomfortable if you have a "bad back".  An extra cushion is always required.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
I still believe the first class carriages on the Albury service are far more comfortable than any Velocity service we have on the network.  The Velocity seats are uncomfortable.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I still believe the first class carriages on the Albury service are far more comfortable than any Velocity service we have on the network.  The Velocity seats are uncomfortable.
8077

It's a matter of personal preference. Although the newer Vlocity seats are harder than the first seats of over 10 years ago, I think I still prefer them over the ACN seats with those silly footrests.

Mike.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

If you think the vlocity is hard then you clearly haven't tried out the Oscar (H set) seats on the Sydney network. The seats on those loco hauled carriages are more like beds then seats. You sink in to them like it is a water bed. The vlocity seats were fine for me and didn't cause numb bum.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
If you think the vlocity is hard then you clearly haven't tried out the Oscar (H set) seats on the Sydney network. The seats on those loco hauled carriages are more like beds then seats. You sink in to them like it is a water bed. The vlocity seats were fine for me and didn't cause numb bum.
simstrain

This I have not are they that bad?
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

If you think the vlocity is hard then you clearly haven't tried out the Oscar (H set) seats on the Sydney network. The seats on those loco hauled carriages are more like beds then seats. You sink in to them like it is a water bed. The vlocity seats were fine for me and didn't cause numb bum.

This I have not are they that bad?
8077
Sims is defending a Victorian train, I never thought I'd see the day.

I really don't get the VLocity seat bashing.
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Who is bashing?
  a6et Minister for Railways

If you think the vlocity is hard then you clearly haven't tried out the Oscar (H set) seats on the Sydney network. The seats on those loco hauled carriages are more like beds then seats. You sink in to them like it is a water bed. The vlocity seats were fine for me and didn't cause numb bum.
simstrain
Are they the same as those used on the CC and Newcastle line?  If so I am in total agreement with you.  The old V sets leave the new ones for dead, shame is that the V sets do not operate on Weekends so I don't travel on rail on weekends. Within half an hour my back throbs.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

If you think the vlocity is hard then you clearly haven't tried out the Oscar (H set) seats on the Sydney network. The seats on those loco hauled carriages are more like beds then seats. You sink in to them like it is a water bed. The vlocity seats were fine for me and didn't cause numb bum.

This I have not are they that bad?
Sims is defending a Victorian train, I never thought I'd see the day.

I really don't get the VLocity seat bashing.
potatoinmymouth
I'm defending the seat. Not the train. The Oscar seats look like the ones used on the T100+ tangara seats which were the best seats on the network but are as hard as rock. The v set seats are only good if you are short and chubby. If your tall and lanky like me they are horribly uncomfortable.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
H Sets have the best seats, fight me.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

H Sets have the best seats, fight me.
Dangersdan707

Which H sets are you talking about?
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Vline H set I think simstrain.

these days the cost is  still the major factor. Regardless as to what is best for the most in seating comfort.

Regards,
David Head
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

I will state that the vlocity is a fine train but it is the track it runs on which ruins the experience due to its extremely poor quality. The thing I remember most about my trips on the vlocity from geelong to SC is not the confort of the seat but being constantly bounced out of my seat by the horrible ride quality of the track in Victoria.
  ANR Assistant Commissioner

V set seats are pure gold. Oscar seats are not fit for suburban service. To add insult to injury, the new interurban train seats wouldnt be as comfy as an electric chair.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

V set seats are pure gold. Oscar seats are not fit for suburban service. To add insult to injury, the new interurban train seats wouldnt be as comfy as an electric chair.
ANR

They are actually purple at the moment. Oscars are definetly the most uncomfortable but the v set is only great for a certain body type. The ex G set seat is the most comfortable as far as I am concerned.
  Ethan1395 Junior Train Controller

Location: An OSCar H Set
A very close friend of mine feels that the OSCar H-set seats are more comfortable than the V-set seat.

I long talked about the discomfort of OSCar trips between Newcastle and Sydney to which they thought they were exaggerating, only having taken a small number of V-set journeys between the two cities themselves.

After they took a small number of OSCar journey between Sydney and Kiama themselves, I asked what they thought of the comfort (or discomfort) levels, to which they described the OSCar seats as comfortable.

Then they took a trip to Newcastle from Sydney on a 4 carriage OSCar express to Wyong followed by all stops to Newcastle Interchange, this I surely thought would convince them that I was not exaggerating, but they said it was comfortable and their rear never got sore.

Asking then later that they actually find the OSCar's MORE comfortable than the V-sets owing to the fact their skin sticks to the V-set seats in summer and the backs seats are not high enough,
and my crazy sister feels the same way! about the seat texture at least.

Hopefully the New Intercity Fleet (NIF) seats provide the best of both trains in terms of comfort.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
H Sets have the best seats, fight me.
Dangersdan707
I see you've never ridden one long distance then. Personally I'd nuke those sets

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