Ballarat Line upgrades underway

 
Topic moved from News by dthead on 20 Nov 2017 12:49
  Rossco T Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Rockbank to Re-open Monday 26th of August. If your keen to check it out, there's an open day the Sunday before.
a significant improvement on what was there. the regulars wont know what hit them. area growing rapidly will also benifit
Galron

Why did they need to rebuild the platforms?  It looks like new one went in at the same location as the old ones.

Ross

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  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Both platforms were too short for a 6-car VL.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner
  Carnot Chief Commissioner



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7FNyi6c8s8
True Believers
One would've hoped they made at least one of these rail lines through the upgraded Wendouree Station dual gauge (or with dual gauge sleepers).  But alas, short-shorted planning strikes again....
  justarider Chief Train Controller

Location: Stuck on VR and hoping for better.
One would've hoped they made at least one of these rail lines through the upgraded Wendouree Station dual gauge (or with dual gauge sleepers).  But alas, short-shorted planning strikes again....
Carnot
and alas the gauge wars continue. Better short-sighted than completely blind.

Be thankful that Geelong and Ararat are still (and hopefully forevever will be) on the Irish.
The massive improvements in last decade would never have happened, and they would would resemble the disaster north of Seymour.

cheers
John
  tazzer96 Deputy Commissioner

Why did they need to rebuild the platforms?  It looks like new one went in at the same location as the old ones.

Ross
Rossco T

Probably just cheaper to destroy the platforms and build them from scratch again than to modify them for DDA accessibility and lifts.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Why did they need to rebuild the platforms?  It looks like new one went in at the same location as the old ones.

Ross

Probably just cheaper to destroy the platforms and build them from scratch again than to modify them for DDA accessibility and lifts.
tazzer96
I second that. The old platforms were pretty well stuffed.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Why did they need to rebuild the platforms?  It looks like new one went in at the same location as the old ones.

Ross

Probably just cheaper to destroy the platforms and build them from scratch again than to modify them for DDA accessibility and lifts.
tazzer96
There is only one new platform, on the down side.
  Inland_Sailor Junior Train Controller

One would've hoped they made at least one of these rail lines through the upgraded Wendouree Station dual gauge (or with dual gauge sleepers).  But alas, short-shorted planning strikes again....
and alas the gauge wars continue.
justarider
Says a lot about the state of this State and the Nation that we can't get the National gauge enacted after 150 + years, let alone build a 20C developed VFT in the 21C!
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
One would've hoped they made at least one of these rail lines through the upgraded Wendouree Station dual gauge (or with dual gauge sleepers).  But alas, short-shorted planning strikes again....
and alas the gauge wars continue. Better short-sighted than completely blind.

Be thankful that Geelong and Ararat are still (and hopefully forevever will be) on the Irish.
The massive improvements in last decade would never have happened, and they would would resemble the disaster north of Seymour.

cheers
John
justarider
Correct, the Benefits of outweigh the failures. Simple cost cutting measure, if there's no need for SG its simple! You can now add Mildura to that list. It's not short term planning, its knowing that in the long run these lines are not being converted for simple gunzel Lash-ups to be seen on Warrenheip Bank hauling the east-west freights. The Gauge wars Never ended!!
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
One would've hoped they made at least one of these rail lines through the upgraded Wendouree Station dual gauge (or with dual gauge sleepers).  But alas, short-shorted planning strikes again....
and alas the gauge wars continue.
Says a lot about the state of this State and the Nation that we can't get the National gauge enacted after 150 + years, let alone build a 20C developed VFT in the 21C!
Inland_Sailor
We have no need for that, that issue could have been solved ages ago however has been prolonged by NSW and the Feds.
We have fairly fast trains going at 160km'h!
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
But not on the Bendigo line as the historic tunnels aren't "wide enough" for two tracks and 160 kph running on the full length and the designated short trip VLo's top out at 130kph due to weight.
  justarider Chief Train Controller

Location: Stuck on VR and hoping for better.
But not on the Bendigo line as the historic tunnels aren't "wide enough" for two tracks and 160 kph running on the full length and the designated short trip VLo's top out at 130kph due to weight.
ARodH
patience Rod. This is the Ballarat thread.
Bendigo RRR will start eventually.

cheers
John
  ARodH Chief Train Controller

Location: East Oakleigh, Vic
Well, the overweight VLo's do run on some part of the Ballarat line but they can't go past Bacchus March and I'll also note that some of the works are now viewable in google maps, but not streetview as they've not been by some spots for some time.
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner
  ngarner Train Controller

Location: Seville
Come on Gauntlet, you've just copied a picture out of the RRR website for the second last one. Artist's impressions never match reality that well! Laughing

Neil
  Rossco T Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Come on Gauntlet, you've just copied a picture out of the RRR website for the second last one. Artist's impressions never match reality that well! Laughing

Neil
ngarner
I thought the same thing when I first saw that picture!

Ross
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Nevertheless, Rockbank station has been transformed and what was a dirt car park is now bitumen, kerb and channel with eucalypts all spaced through it...It's a tribute to the forward thinking of the government that Rockbank will, very soon be a very busy station.

Mike.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A recent image from Rockbank showing the speed through the points from the platform at 65 km/h.  Also note the track laying past the turnout.

  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
Here's some more photos of Wendouree and Bacchus Marsh.
It looks like the Parkiteer bicycle cage at Bacchus Marsh will be demolished to make way for an access road. It's visible on the far right of one of the photos. I wonder how old it is.

https://flic.kr/p/2hdnHvq

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  ADB Locomotive Fireman

Thanks for the photos, Gauntlet, but My God, the new Bacchus Marsh station looks ugly. Do they really have to make those bridges such a modernistic eye-sore? Are they purposely designed to jar so severely with the rural landscape? I never cease to be appalled at the sheer ugliness of modern construction.

Edit: Although, having just scrolled up and seen Rockbank, Bacchus could have been a lot worse!
  Rossco T Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Thanks for the photos, Gauntlet, but My God, the new Bacchus Marsh station looks ugly. Do they really have to make those bridges such a modernistic eye-sore? Are they purposely designed to jar so severely with the rural landscape? I never cease to be appalled at the sheer ugliness of modern construction.

Edit: Although, having just scrolled up and seen Rockbank, Bacchus could have been a lot worse!
ADB
If only they would go with underpasses rather than overpasses, much less noticeable!
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

If only they would go with underpasses rather than overpasses, much less noticeable!
Rossco T
Also smelly, dank, dark, dangerous, and, given we no longer have steam in regular service, of no particular benefit to passengers. Give me a nice-looking bridge any day.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Thanks for the photos, Gauntlet, but My God, the new Bacchus Marsh station looks ugly. Do they really have to make those bridges such a modernistic eye-sore? Are they purposely designed to jar so severely with the rural landscape? I never cease to be appalled at the sheer ugliness of modern construction.

Edit: Although, having just scrolled up and seen Rockbank, Bacchus could have been a lot worse!
ADB
ADB, I think you are being a little harsh, if the new station increases train infrequency, caters for simple and efficient movement of passengers onto and off the train, simple and easy access to their mode of transport and allows for growth in passenger numbers in the long term, weather the station looks good to you or me is, neither here nor there. If you have achieved all of those objectives, job well done.

What type or look of station do you have in mind ?

BigShunter.

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder........Wink
  Rossco T Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
If only they would go with underpasses rather than overpasses, much less noticeable!
Also smelly, dank, dark, dangerous, and, given we no longer have steam in regular service, of no particular benefit to passengers. Give me a nice-looking bridge any day.
potatoinmymouth
Still prefer a modern underpass that lets the light through.  Think Tarneit, Lynbrook, Cardinia Road or Morwell.  Much better than a Williams Landing style overpass in my opinion, and also much easier for passengers to negotiate.  No need for stairs or excessively long ramps.

But each to their own...

Ross

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