Clifton Hill group musings

 
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

Well it remains to be seen whether the new info will be of any use, but it's an improvement to station staff yelling "Stand clear train departing!!!" about 1/10th of a second after the train stops.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I am not sure it is an improvement at all.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fairfield and Denis stations have new displays but Clifton Hill a junction station still remains without an upgrade which would be very handy given the different stopping patterns on the Mernda and Hurstbridge lines.
  notadriver Beginner

Clifton hill does have new displays, got them a few weeks before the ones at Fairfield.

Dennis and Westgarth only have displays on the Up side, these are the new LCD displays but they use an older version of the software which displays the entire stopping pattern as opposed to a summary.
  notadriver Beginner

For anyone interested in the different UIs of these new screens, see below:






  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That second image looks like Platform 1 at Fairfield.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

You can see the Trojan Dog in the background.
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Those new displays look silly. Why not just list all the stations and show which ones will be skipped? Reminds me of those LED ones they used to have, which would say the next train, then speed through rolling text showing which stations it would be express between, and which it would stop at. Bad design.
  notadriver Beginner

Those new displays look silly. Why not just list all the stations and show which ones will be skipped? Reminds me of those LED ones they used to have, which would say the next train, then speed through rolling text showing which stations it would be express between, and which it would stop at. Bad design.
ElliotProvis

My initial thoughts exactly. However I have come to appreciate the easier to read design from afar - especially on non inner-city stations where there will presumably only be one screen per platform.

These screens still add succeeding train info and the current time, whereas the LED screens would only display the next train's info. The first design of the new screens looks very user-unfriendly in retrospect now.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
You can see the Trojan Dog in the background.
kitchgp

Who is currently under maintenance with a fence around him.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
Maybe a compromise would be for the screens to flip between the two designs, though that may be confusing as well.

I think it's better for the screens to be able to be read from down the platform, especially if it helps spread people along the train.
  John.Z Chief Train Controller

They've replaced a cheaper dot matrix with a more expensive LCD screen. Obviously that wasn't the intent, but that's become the outcome.

They need to look at Sydney, or even Flinders St, and just go for a couple of screens, or one bigger one that's coloured and easy to read from a distance.
  Revenue Chief Commissioner

They've replaced a cheaper dot matrix with a more expensive LCD screen. Obviously that wasn't the intent, but that's become the outcome.

They need to look at Sydney, or even Flinders St, and just go for a couple of screens, or one bigger one that's coloured and easy to read from a distance.
John.Z
Got any evidence a dot matrix screen is cheaper? Maybe in 1997 but the world has come a long way since then! Razz
  John.Z Chief Train Controller

They've replaced a cheaper dot matrix with a more expensive LCD screen. Obviously that wasn't the intent, but that's become the outcome.

They need to look at Sydney, or even Flinders St, and just go for a couple of screens, or one bigger one that's coloured and easy to read from a distance.
Got any evidence a dot matrix screen is cheaper? Maybe in 1997 but the world has come a long way since then! Razz
Revenue
Hmm my wording was not the best there I agree.

The new screens provide no extra info that not's avaliable on the dot matrix, so I'm not really sure why they would go for them over a City Loop size screen.
  notadriver Beginner

The new screens do actually provide additional information, as seen in the posts above they add:
- Current time (very useful for outer-suburban platforms)
- Succeeding service ETA & stopping summary

In addition, these screens do support colour which I would assume will be switched over to the new inverted colour coded design currently seen at FSS once there are enough of these new screens on the network to make it consistent between stations.

I believe they are not rolling out the full height screens at non-CBD stations due to clearance issues. While it would be ideal to have the large screens on every platform, I can’t see them raising the roofs on older platforms in order to accommodate the full screens.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

Caused by a truck damaging HV lines near Clifton Hill.

Level crossings at Westgarth, Denis, Fairfield and Alphington were down blocking traffic for hours today with police in attendance at all level crossings and also at the corner of Westgath and High Streets.  First noticed by me at 9.15am and still an issue after 11am.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
New security fencing has been installed on the northern side of the line between the Clifton Hill Loop Portal (for Jolimont) and Brunton Avenue, presumably to make it harder for people to jump the small fence and enter the MURL.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Would have thought a more pressing issue was the oft-unlocked gate down where Brunton Ave meets the Richmond lines! I’ll never forget the scene of thousands of out-of-towners mistaking it for the path back to Flinders St after the 2015 World Cup final. Absolutely surreal standing on the footbridge watching people milling around as they realised they were stuck in an active rail corridor, and a couple of Metro track workers trying to take control of the situation before something disastrous happened.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Awoke this morning to the whistle of a K class running between Clifton Hill and Fairfield on the down.  Thru at 09:50.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Awoke this morning to the whistle of a K class running between Clifton Hill and Fairfield on the down.  Thru at 09:50.
bevans

K class on the UP through the section around 19:50
  LeroyW Junior Train Controller

Location: Awaiting MM2
Awoke this morning to the whistle of a K class running between Clifton Hill and Fairfield on the down.  Thru at 09:50.

K class on the UP through the section around 19:50
bevans
That would have been for the annual Wattle Festival in Hurstbridge: http://wattlefestival.org.au/

The steam train shuttles between Hurstbridge and Eltham during the afternoon with a trip from/to Filnders St to bookend the day. Tickets sell out way in advance so get in early for 2020 Cool!
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
That would have been for the annual Wattle Festival in Hurstbridge: http://wattlefestival.org.au/

The steam train shuttles between Hurstbridge and Eltham during the afternoon with a trip from/to Filnders St to bookend the day. Tickets sell out way in advance so get in early for 2020 Cool!
LeroyW

The Long whistles on the UP sounded magical as the train came through considering the 3 level crossings between Fairfield and Clifton Hill.
  712M Chief Commissioner

Noticed this morning on an up Mernda service that there was no driver changeover taking place at Flinders Street platform 1. The driver simply stopped, reset the PIDS for the down service and departed in about 45 seconds. Is this a permanent arrangement? If so how long as this been happening now and where are changeovers now happening? I was under the illusion that this was one of the conditions that the RTBU are arguing to maintain.
  John.Z Chief Train Controller

Noticed this morning on an up Mernda service that there was no driver changeover taking place at Flinders Street platform 1. The driver simply stopped, reset the PIDS for the down service and departed in about 45 seconds. Is this a permanent arrangement? If so how long as this been happening now and where are changeovers now happening? I was under the illusion that this was one of the conditions that the RTBU are arguing to maintain.
712M
Believe that the changeover is now at Clifton Hill on services that are approaching the City (So a driver will run Clifton Hill - City Loop - Clifton Hill - Mernda/Hurstbridge - Clifton Hill).

Makes sense
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The new security fencing adjacent to the MURL portal at Jolimont has been completed.

Also noticed today fencing around the Metro Depot at Clifton hill has been removed.

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