Tram destination roll/blind

 
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
xke9600hp:  I don't agree with you about auction houses.  They're much more expensive than using something like Ebay, that's true, but for the average person seeking to dispose of an estate or a collection they can be really handy as there's no work for you to do; often they'll pick everything up and you also have no liability if the buyer is unhappy for any reason.  Once you sell at an auction it's gone for good and you don't have to worry about it any longer.

Ebay is good for small lots that auction houses are generally reluctant to take but with Ebay/PayPal the onus is on you to do most of the work including photographing, description, dealing with queries, packing and sending. PayPal is not a good deal for vendors in my opinion because if the buyer is unhappy with the purchase they can get a full refund from you up to six months after the date of purchase - on top of making you pay three percent for the privilege.  I avoid selling anything on Ebay/PayPal it because there's always a chance some malicious buyer will force you to take something back that they've damaged themselves.

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  fyshwick Beginner

There is an original North Sydney tram roll selling on ebay at the moment. It's the first one I've seen in quite a while.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
$2,300 is more than you would want to pay; the condition is poor and it would be impossible to restore. If you were patient and trawled auctions for a long time you would probably find a better one.

Scammell Auctions in Adelaide recently had two South Australian trolley-bus destination rolls dating from the sixties and I had a bid on them via the internet but they ran away to about $400 each (which was more than I wanted to pay). They were in really good condition though and highly collectable - not quite as desirable as a tram roll but nevertheless still worth buying because of the unique connection to Adelaide's short-lived trolley-bus network.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Also they were suggesting in the description that it would be more valuable chopped up and sold in individual destinations - not sure if I agree with that. A better idea (to deal with the damage) could be divided into sections with five or six destinations each which might hang 8 or 10 feet down a typical wall - if you mounted or framed them in that way I feel it would be more practical for a collector. I don't feel that its desecration dividing up a tram roll, particularly if its damaged like that one... if you look closely at the pictures you can see that it's already been cobbled together from other rolls as destinations have changed over the years.
  fyshwick Beginner

I'm interested in it and I don't fully agree with some of your opinions as I have been looking around for quite some time and this is the only genuine one I've seen. It's in pretty good nick considering the age and doesn't look like it's been put together at all and seems to be one continuous piece from one tram. I have seen individual and double destinations in one frame going for several hundred so a piece 10Metres long with about 26 usable destinations might be worth having as I have not seen a full roll for sale for a long time. ...although I did see a nice one on the ceiling of a bar recently and the owner told me he paid a fortune for it about 4 years ago.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I've been collecting art and memorabilia for a long time and I can assure you that you would get one cheaper if you were prepared to wait... but you might wait quite a few years before you find one that you really like in the condition that's acceptable and it might not be the exact North Shore one you've convinced yourself you really want (it might be a "City and Eastern Suburbs" or perhaps a Newcastle roll instead).

One thing I've learned from collecting over the years is: Don't pay too much even though you might fall in love.

The primary reason for that is that things go in and out of fashion and if you buy something at the height of its fashion-ability and pay top dollar, you might find in ten or twenty years that you've lost money. Example: Walnut-veneered art deco 1930's furniture was red-hot about 15 years ago and you could pay some ridiculous prices for things like sideboards with lead-lighting. It's right out of fashion now; teak Danish 1960's stuff (the sort of thing you used to see a lot at hard-rubbish night twenty years ago) is now all the rage and you could find yourself paying many thousands for a long, low sideboard from the sixties but unable to get anything like the thousand dollars that you paid for the deco sideboard bought years ago. Train and tram memorabilia is exactly the same proposition.

Tram destination scrolls are very, very fashionable right now, as evidenced by the many hundreds of imitations you find in cheap designer places and on E-bay. There was a reproduction tram scroll on "The Block" recently; that should be your warning sign that the market is hot and interest is very high - it might not be that way in another five years.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
There's a plastic destination blind on E-bay at the moment - still has four days to go but it's only around the $110 mark. I consider this to be excellent value and I might even have a bid at that price. Appears to be from an A-Class made in the mid-eighties and probably scrapped in the early 2000's when they moved to dot matrix LED destinations.

It has lots of suburbs listed that are among the nicest spots in Melbourne (in my opinion!).
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
As an update; the Melbourne A-class destination blind made $310 after being re-listed for some reason. I still feel at that price it's not a bad investment. You could certainly have cut it into three, kept your preferred destinations and sell off the other two perhaps; being too long overall to display down a wall I don't feel it's a terrible desecration to cut it in that way. Not a bad investment as the provenance will probably mean its always worth something in the future - as opposed to reproductions which will probably be worthless. The other Sydney North Shore blind discussed earlier is still there but at that price it will probably take a long time to sell.
  elpsara Beginner

Hello,
Apologies for raising up an old thread but would like to share the roll/blind that has recently come into my possession.  

I believe it to by a tram scroll.

Definitely Sydney.

Never seen one before but think this is in excellent condition.  No tears, minimal fading etc.



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Whilst I think it is a great piece.  I am not interested in keeping it and therefor happy to take call from anyone who might like to purchase it.

Andrew.
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  TomBTR Train Controller

Location: near Sydney
Thanks for showing us your Eastern Suburbs destination roll. It does look to be in good condition. You don't happen to have one for the North Shore by any chance?

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