Blah blah blah Don. You can believe in Brexit. That's fine. Its when you continually lie about it is when I speak out. All you have is empty slogans. Why continue to lie to yourself Don.

You still have not given me any reason why Britain should leave except the people voted for it (narrowly) and rambling on about progressives. The late John McCain would be a progressive according to you.

The fact that the North is not as prosperous as the home counties is not the EU fault. Things will not change with a right wing Tory Government who hail mainly from the home counties. In any case the majority of the home counties voted for Brexit.

Really - the majority of Home Counties voted to leave? It appears from the map that I've posted below that the majority of the remain vote was in Scotland and the south/Home Counties. I guess it depends on how you define "Home Counties".  

You are going around in circles because you don't like the answer.

Nah actually I'm pretty clear about what the solution is as I said a few posts up. If anyone doesn't know what they're blathering on about its you two.

£15.5 billion pounds better off for a start - Office for National Statistics.
I've said nothing about the EU: You on the other hand just don't like the 17 million Britons who voted to leave. You think they're northern and backward. Isn't that the truth?

No, you are one eyed and the other is 95% closed. You don't give a F about the House following the legal Parliamentary process, the rights for MP's to reject any legislation or the consequences, you want them to leave unconditionally regardless of the outcome.

You don't care that the GBP decline is driven by industries lack of confidence in the future, you don't care about even that the population's position has changed.

The demographic breakdown was interesting

Younger and more educated people want to Stay.

Older and lessor educated people want to Leave.

Sth Aust is a financial drain on the Aust National Economy, but you don't see the rest of us saying lets kick them out. Oh wait, we need to keep it just in case the Brits want to again test Nuclear Bombs.

No, you are one eyed and the other is 95% closed. You don't give a F about the House following the legal Parliamentary process, the rights for MP's to reject any legislation or the consequences, you want them to leave unconditionally regardless of the outcome.

Because after three years I think it's pretty obvious to any casual observer that they'll never get the British parliament to agree to any one particular model. It's impossible. So either it's an extremely hard Brexit (which I don't really think is the best solution) or some way of bypassing the parliament altogether... those are your choices. Not a revocation of Article 50, not a general election, not a second plebiscite/referendum/whatever. Hard Brexit verses a parliament that can finally agree on ONE model.

This has nothing to do with what I think Shane and everything to do with the enormous chip that you and Michael have on your collective shoulder about the fact that the British people voted LEAVE. Forget about it, it's over - that argument has been fought and lost.

You don't care that the GBP decline is driven by industries lack of confidence in the future, you don't care about even that the population's position has changed.

Again, this appeal to irrational externalities and wild possibilities that have nothing to do with the actual problem.

Get rid of Sydney and Melbourne I say.

No, you are one eyed and the other is 95% closed. You don't give a F about the House following the legal Parliamentary process, the rights for MP's to reject any legislation or the consequences, you want them to leave unconditionally regardless of the outcome.

Because after three years I think it's pretty obvious to any casual observer that they'll never get the British parliament to agree to any one particular model. It's impossible. So either it's an extremely hard Brexit (which I don't really think is the best solution) or some way of bypassing the parliament altogether... those are your choices. Not a revocation of Article 50, not a general election, not a second plebiscite/referendum/whatever. Hard Brexit verses a parliament that can finally agree on ONE model.

This has nothing to do with what I think Shane and everything to do with the enormous chip that you and Michael have on your collective shoulder about the fact that the British people voted LEAVE. Forget about it, it's over - that argument has been fought and lost.

You don't care that the GBP decline is driven by industries lack of confidence in the future, you don't care about even that the population's position has changed.

Again, this appeal to irrational externalities and wild possibilities that have nothing to do with the actual problem.

Woo there, who is now the one promoting by-passing the legal democratic process, by-passing Parliament, the very system that represents the people.

The only way forward and one you won't accept because well, you're Don, is to revocat Article 50. The fact that after 3.5 years we are still at the current situation is proof enough the Process has been a failure and trying to continue is stupidity. Once Art 50 is done, then get back to business of running the country, while at the same time setting up a committee who's task is by the next general election have a Legislative Proposal that can be but to the House and potentially the people. The same committee should also work with the EU to try and resolve the issues at hand so this can also be presented at the same time.

Don, wake up, business, you know the places that employ people does not on the whole support Brexit, this has been clear from the start.

Get rid of Sydney and Melbourne I say.

I'm sure many, many Australians would be happy to do so, but it will never happen!

Get rid of Sydney and Melbourne I say.

I'm sure many, many Australians would be happy to do so, but it will never happen!

Better still, build a big wall around them and tell them they're on their own.

More likely so, we can let Queensland be bleach out of existence, till they're just a big white blemish and use South Australia as our nuclear test site.

'We should get rid of the people that we disagree with', 'love it or leave it'. Remind me again what 2 states have the strongest economies.

Queensland, they're just a big white blemish

Remind me again what 2 states have the strongest economies.

Woo there, who is now the one promoting by-passing the legal democratic process, by-passing Parliament, the very system that represents the people.

Because parliament can't seem to get it done, that's why.

The only way forward and one you won't accept because well, you're Don, is to revocat Article 50. The fact that after 3.5 years we are still at the current situation is proof enough the Process has been a failure and trying to continue is stupidity. Once Art 50 is done, then get back to business of running the country, while at the same time setting up a committee who's task is by the next general election have a Legislative Proposal that can be but to the House and potentially the people. The same committee should also work with the EU to try and resolve the issues at hand so this can also be presented at the same time.

This is way, way too complicated and it betrays the 17 million people who told parliament that they wanted to leave. Every day that parliament delays this thing is a flat out two-finger salute to the people who knew what they were voting for and wanted out.

Why are you people so determined to make this more complicated than it needs to be? If parliament can't reach an agreement then just crash out with a hard Brexit like Boris is threatening to do - it really can't be any worse than holding this thing up indefinitely in committees and consultations for yet another three years... frankly that's just gutless and dishonest.

Don, wake up, business, you know the places that employ people does not on the whole support Brexit, this has been clear from the start.

Oh yeah, money before people. How stupid of me to forget!

A Labour opposition leader who has a popularity rating of 22%.

Sydney and Melbourne don't produce or export anything at all now that we're not a manufacturing economy (sans 'education', and that's just a permanent residency sales scam). The two things that we actually export to keep the nation afloat (minerals/energy, agricultural exports) don't come from either city.

So the rest of Australia effectively pays for that giant economic sink-hole of 10 million or so people to exist. They can't survive without the rest of the nation - not the other way around.

....use South Australia as our nuclear test site.

I'm hearing a Brexit deal has been done!! signed off by all the appropriate parties, it is yet to be ratified by the House of Commons however.

I'm hearing a Brexit deal has been done!! signed off by all the appropriate parties, it is yet to be ratified by the House of Commons however.