NeilAs a young kid going shopping with Mum at Hornsby by train from Wahroonga I saw a std goods, which I had presumed was the Shore one as there was nothing in loco, two times on - guards van, bogie gin, guards van; and one other time with two gins. Two of the times they stood in the Down yard and once it was steaming away onto the Down under the Bridge St bridge. This would have been ~10ish AM on a weekday. I much later guessed they were filling lineside tanks, thanks for the confirmation.
As I mentioned elsewhere, there was usually one freighter at Hornsby, the Sunday evening train when running had the job to fill the lineside water tanks to Cowan and Return. IRRC the train number was 207, the other day time working was 205. Both trains would/could pick up at Nth Strathfield and Gonoroo on the down, the night time trips down the shore were interesting, there was a coal unloader that backed onto Mona Vale road IIRC, cow of a place to shunt, there was one other location on the up shore as well, I tend to believe it was at Chatswood then to St Leonards which kept you going with a lot of shunting there, two sidings on the Down shore and another on the up.
What was brought back from St Leonards included the wagons off the up that were picked up, all the wagons were then stowed at Hornsby in the Down Yard, unless and this was rare a load was sent to Enfield. Hornsby itself had a lot of shunting during the daylight hours where the engine would ensure everything was in place for the picking up by down train, usually IIRC it was 633 that picked up at Nth Strathfield and Hornsby, if a garratt was on it, which was more common than thought, we took water at the station, then picked up there to build the load up to 680tons.
The engine that went up to Hornsby and did the shore would change every day with the work down the shore, as well as working to/from Hornsby and perform the yard shunting at Hornsby meant the engine would need to be changed owing to low coal being left in the tender. I would doubt that a wampum tendered engine when a lot of work on the shore was carried out, would be able to do a 24 hour shift, although depending on the amount of work on the shore and yard, a 3650 gall tendered engine would be ultra tight. What generally happened and prevented any issues was the day working of 205 that took loading to Hornsby and the Enfield crew working that would change over with the engine that had been there since the previous evening and worked loading/empties back to Enfield.
For a while 7201 was tested on the shore, as my driver at the time was gualified for the rotter, later it was replaced by a 48cl and we would continue to Enfield through the underground rather than going back to Hornsby at a point 73classes took over, and performed the same role, meaning no down goods worked the shore.
My recollection is that the sidings at Mona Vale Rd were gravel which was used by a road making business. I passed this many times en route to Chatswood or the city as a primary school aged kid. There was a siding/loop on the western side of the line (no overhead) at Gordon where I recall the was occasionally one S truck or similar. The deadend ran to a major substation looking building in the City direction from the station. Chatswood always had some wagons, no idea of the freight though. There was a hand operated crane in the yard.
I never saw the 72 or any 73s but do have a photo of a 48 on the Shore goods in the Down yard on a Sunday afternoon and a 44 heading North through Warrawee one Saturday morning. These would have been in mid 1966 to mid 1967.
I finished at Enfield end of 69, returned there in Feb 71, from memory the shore was finished as such by then, could be wrong though, but I know I did not work on the shore until I was appointed Driver at Central ETR in 76, I do recollect that the sidings were pretty well gone by then. At the time of my working when the sidings were in operation was the 60's period, and the two sidings at Mona Vale Road and thanks for identifying the other one as being at Gordon, I can only recollect shunting one of the sidings once, & I never worked steam down the line as it was worked by Hornsby steam crew with the occasional Enfield crew in order to keep the drivers who were qualified for that line conversant and qualified to work over it, had to do it at least once every 6 months.
With the introduction of the Mk4 48, steam finished on the shore and other lines, 7201 was tested on several workings when it came out, initially on the shore and other similar short workings, it also was put on Botany testings, but found its place on #2 Balmain Coal unloading siding where it pretty much kept going until being withdrawn.
When back at Enfield (Delec) I was a relief Chargeman at Delec in the Zona area, involved with engine rosters, primarily the small engines, including 48, 73, and by that time X200 class that worked to Botany & return to Clyde daily, the work included getting relief crews out to various trains and arranging for the Illawarra trains and crewings, along with the loco's on that work.
At that time there was 73 classes working a fair number of trip trains and shunting jobs, that is where I got the aspect of the 73 on the shore. What I found when coming back to Sydney at Delec was how much change there had been since I had left in just a short 15 months, although we still had steam through to the north, where I worked as a fireman on several through garratt hauled trains at night, also on one trip with 6038 on its last trip from BMD to Enfield on a load, I also was the fireman on 5917 that worked the last 59cl hauled goods train from Enfield to BMD.
The 70's for me and my last area of working and changes in the 80's was a time I can never forget but with those changes I saw the gradual destruction of a great system, and will leave it at that.
As I mentioned, there was, I will check the WTT though its likely to new for any rostered lineside water tank fillings to have still been on in the 70's, but the Cowan return trip was usually done on alternate Mondays, and with the Hornsby steam crews, I believe at the time there were two sets of men there. There was a good amount of shunting done there especially the down yard. Much of the work and wagons were taken to Hornsby by the two trip trains also by some other trains as well. Two of the down sidings were used to hold extra loads for the North, as the loads were 80tons lighter between West Ryde and Hornsby, it was a good way to get fully loaded trains all the way by non priority trains picking up 80 tons at Hornsby, to go through to BMD, heavy garratts could take 605 Tons to Hornsby but 680 North of Hornsby, Light types 575 & 650 respectively.
When the shore services were becoming very scarce, Hornsby steam depot was closed and the crews went into the ETR section.