T6 Carlingford Line closure for Parramatta Light Rail

 
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

Am I missing something? Will they take 3 years to convert to light rail? If so, why?  

Down here in Melbourne, they converted the Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to light rail in less than 3 months. And that included gauge conversion.

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  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

Am I missing something? Will they take 3 years to convert to light rail? If so, why?  

hbedriver


T6 line is a short part of the project ... major earth works and a few bridges just for the T6 section ..
  Ethan1395 Train Controller

Location: An OSCar H Set
If this was Newcastle, half the tracks would be gone by now.
michaelgm
If it were Newcastle, the Carlingford Line would have been converted to a walking/cycling rail trail with the surrounding areas being hostile to walking and cycling with large multi-lane roundabouts preventing safe road crossing, and strict council rules regarding two things in one suburb.

The main west would also have far fewer stations, it would only have Emu Plains-Werrington-Doonside-Wentworthville-Harris Park-Clyde-Homebush-Croydon-Macdonaldtown where it would be all out, all change to a poorly timed light rail connection to Wynyard, and trains would only run once every 2 hours.


In all seriousness, could any track be reused? And why does it take three years, couldn't the Parramatta to Rosehill section be constructed and then have the line close?
Viaprojects said it, the T6 conversion is only a small part of the project.

I think the light rail conversion is a decent way to make use of the corridior, it's not a complete loss, I just hope it gets extended through the Carlingford Court area to Epping.
  SupremeLeaderSmeagol Junior Train Controller

If this was Newcastle, half the tracks would be gone by now.


Sandown line should be ripped up and fenced off going via past notices ... would assume a few problems ..

t6 line is going to take a month with the ohw going first ( should have started ) and other items being fenced off / removed ... time table of removal works has been posted ...
sandown line will be used for the tram facility.
simstrain
Only parts of it.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
If this was Newcastle, half the tracks would be gone by now.


Sandown line should be ripped up and fenced off going via past notices ... would assume a few problems ..

t6 line is going to take a month with the ohw going first ( should have started ) and other items being fenced off / removed ... time table of removal works has been posted ...
sandown line will be used for the tram facility.
simstrain
And will be most likely used for Stage 2 of Western Sydney Light Rail to Sydney Olympic Park, and then to Strathfield.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
If this was Newcastle, half the tracks would be gone by now.


Sandown line should be ripped up and fenced off going via past notices ... would assume a few problems ..

t6 line is going to take a month with the ohw going first ( should have started ) and other items being fenced off / removed ... time table of removal works has been posted ...
sandown line will be used for the tram facility.
And will be most likely used for Stage 2 of Western Sydney Light Rail to Sydney Olympic Park, and then to Strathfield.
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller




In all seriousness, could any track be reused? And why does it take three years, couldn't the Parramatta to Rosehill section be constructed and then have the line close?
Viaprojects said it, the T6 conversion is only a small part of the project.

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Ethan1395


short long story ... t6 is a single line railway .. the new light rail is going to be dual track so current single track alignment cannot be used ...for the length of the line earth / rock works are need to widen the alignment... and some government policy, rail property cannot be transferred - so track cannot be used ( same thing happened with the other light rail conversion )..

current details unknown is bridge works .. about 5 bridges will need work or replacement ...
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

sandown line will be used for the tram facility.
And will be most likely used for Stage 2 of Western Sydney Light Rail to Sydney Olympic Park, and then to Strathfield.
AheadMatthewawsome


stage 2 will go via Rydalmere .. but still up in the air on what's going on ...may not have rails ( not joking )
  Totoro Locomotive Fireman

viaprojects,
Wow that would be big news about Stage 2 if true. I live in Rhodes so am already well served by the T9, but happen to know a lot of people in Wentworth Point who would be quite upset if the Stage 2 LR were scrapped..

If not rail.. does that mean bus or a trackless tram? Latter would be preferable to the former but neither would be as well received as LR. :/
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

viaprojects,
Wow that would be big news about Stage 2 if true. I live in Rhodes so am already well served by the T9, but happen to know a lot of people in Wentworth Point who would be quite upset if the Stage 2 LR were scrapped..

If not rail.. does that mean bus or a trackless tram? Latter would be preferable to the former but neither would be as well received as LR. :/
Totoro


not scrapped just a pain until stage 1 is open or a final decision on stage 2 which ever comes first ... most part we have current bus routes and trackless tram is a cheap cop out to save money for the western metro ...mostly bits in the news ...
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
Next thing, it will be trackless trains, then wheeless buses, then wheelless  and waterless will then become a word in the dictionary, then flying cars, then waterless boats, then airless planes then floating humans in a virtual reality world!
  route14 Chief Commissioner

What a waste that the light rail cannot just use the railway tracks (and probably the overhead catenary)!
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

What a waste that the light rail cannot just use the railway tracks (and probably the overhead catenary)!
route14
no - limited waste - railway items will go back into the Sydney rail network to be reused ..
  SupremeLeaderSmeagol Junior Train Controller

They've already removed the overhead wiring on the former T6 Carlingford Rail line, and have begun demolition works.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

At least the transportation cost of rails is a waste.  Trains are heavier so I think it makes more sense if they got the new rails.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
At least the transportation cost of rails is a waste.  Trains are heavier so I think it makes more sense if they got the new rails.
route14
Light Rail tends to be the opposite, ie rails are heavier than I've seen on many HR lines due to the intense use they get and limited maintenance access windows.

You'll probably find the track is being removed so that they can have access to the ROW for widening to twin tracks without the pain of the track.

For the first stage of L1 or maybe it was the 2nd stage, the track and OH was reused from what I noticed. ie timber sleepers and standard HR OH.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Thank you.  It makes sense.  However in Sydney's case even a single line branch as Richmond gets 60 kg rail, I doubt if you could find heavier rail than that.  In China, they do use 75 kg rail for important hub stations.
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

going by all the short news report's ... T6 is dead ...and have started on the Parramatta light rail... ( still on prep works )
  SupremeLeaderSmeagol Junior Train Controller

going by all the short news report's ... T6 is dead ...and have started on the Parramatta light rail... ( still on prep works )
viaprojects
Yep, timeline does state that LR work on that rail corridor starts this month
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Am I missing something? Will they take 3 years to convert to light rail? If so, why?  

Down here in Melbourne, they converted the Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to light rail in less than 3 months. And that included gauge conversion.
hbedriver

As mentioned by Via the T6 is just a part of the project but also it isn't just a conversion of the existing line. There is duplication to be done as well and the old T6 is not exactly the flattest alignment like the lines you mentioned in Melbourne.
  tezza Chief Commissioner

"If this was Newcastle, half the tracks would be gone by now."michaelgmNo, the Newcastle line was closed for twelve months before the infrastructure was removed
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

there are a lot of delays in the Parramatta light rail project.. just trying to work out when the first length of track is going to be installed but have a picture of not this year with all the current notifications..
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Update-May 2020

Rydalmere station is confirmed to have be demolished, Telopea has reportedly been demolished, work has started on preparing Carlingford and Camellia for demolition, the Sandown line has been completely removed and Rosehill is set to be demolished in the near future although no work has been undertaken as of yet

The only remnants of the line that will be left are Dundas station, Rydalmere bridge and Clyde platform 1
  Sydney Metro Vlogs Locomotive Fireman

Location: On H1 in car OD6901
Rosehill is set to be demolished in the near future although no work has been undertaken as of yet

The only remnants of the line that will be left are Dundas station, Rydalmere bridge and Clyde platform 1
DCook
I'm pretty sure Rosehill's Foorbridge is heritage listed as well, but I'm not too sure if it'll be retained or not: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/heritageapp/ViewHeritageItemDetails.aspx?ID=4801762
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller

Update-May 2020
"DCook"


missed - Work to remove the train tracks across the old level crossing at Parramatta Road

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