S306 Reactivated

 
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Video uploaded yesterday on the 707 Operations' facebook page shows Pac Nat's S306 running under its' own power out of the shed at Newport. They're hoping to have it on the Murrayville Grainlander tour in March. If it does, it'll be the second PN loco to appear on a 707 Ops. tour recently following T392 on a couple through 2019. 707 also have BL34 and XR's 552, 554 and 555 stored for PN in their area as well as P20.

I don't know if the link will work, but here goes anyway.

https://www.facebook.com/707operationsInc/videos/2485502188239443/UzpfSTEwMDAzMjUzNDE5NDU5NzpWSzozMzU4NTI5MTQ3NDk2NzE1/

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  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
The last part of the video, there looks to a QRN X standing there on the same track.

Or did I see things? If not, is that a 707 ops new acquisition too??

Regards
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
The last part of the video, there looks to a QRN X standing there on the same track.

Or did I see things? If not, is that a 707 ops new acquisition too??

Regards
davesvline
thats one of the XR's that 707 have in "storage" in their area for PN. was, and may still be, 5-6 of PN's BG loco's there at one point. been talk of as many as 4 BG grain rakes being re-activated at some point, so they wont stay for long there if that happens.

Whatever 707's arrangements are with PN, its good to see 306 up and running again. Perhaps S301 will make an appearance in the next 12 months again rather than being stored out of sight at Newport as it has been for 10 or more years now.
  ADB Junior Train Controller

Fantastic. Thanks for the info, Greensleeves. Didn't take them long to get her up and running, after over a decade in storage. Galron, I was under the impression S301 had a seized engine?

And talking of stored locos, does anyone know if X48 and X50 have a chance of being reactivated for grain this year (maybe still on SG for running to NSW?) Maybe a long shot but I live in hope!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I wonder if they'll ever repaint S306?  VicRail Teacup livery would be my choice!
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I wonder if they'll ever repaint S306?  VicRail Teacup livery would be my choice!
"Carnot"
Ugh !
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Unless I have missed it in my lurking who owns S306 these days?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Is S 307 another possibility for preservation or restoration?
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

Maybe one of the stored locos in the museum is about to see a new lease of life.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Unless I have missed it in my lurking who owns S306 these days?
8077
I suspect you will find PN still owns the loco, along with S301 and S307. I also suspect your likely to find a no 3rd party hire or sub-lease clause in whatever arrangements exist in relation to S306.

S306 was being used on the paper train for a while when PN had that contract, so its not been stored that long. Assuming it wasn't raided to keep any of PN's other locos going, i would imagine it was mostly compete - especially if they have been able to get it going so quick. Fluids change, battery change and probably not a lot else was needed.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998

Shocked Well unless you’ve been under a rock and didn’t know, there’s absolutely zip worth stripping out of an S class to keep anything else PN has running.

Especially now, since any usable parts would be going into what PN had chopped up at MFT within the last 12months.
  C2 Junior Train Controller

they have a C class  in the museum.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Fantastic. Thanks for the info, Greensleeves. Didn't take them long to get her up and running, after over a decade in storage. Galron, I was under the impression S301 had a seized engine?

And talking of stored locos, does anyone know if X48 and X50 have a chance of being reactivated for grain this year (maybe still on SG for running to NSW?) Maybe a long shot but I live in hope!
ADB
If/when those two see service again it'll likely be when they get back to running two rakes on the Fruity but there's a few G's/BL's and a couple of XR's they could use first as well as any more 81's from NSW work. While they did make a few trips on the interstate grain runs they weren't common on them.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW

And talking of stored locos, does anyone know if X48 and X50 have a chance of being reactivated for grain this year (maybe still on SG for running to NSW?) Maybe a long shot but I live in hope!
ADB
Id guess next to zero given the harvest is so low.  There are 81cl being stored at the moment which id think would come back to run in NSW before Xcl would.
  E1102 Beginner

Maybe one of the stored locos in the museum is about to see a new lease of life.
trainbrain
Nope, nothing to do with the museum.

they have a C class in the museum.
C2
Yes, C10, which is steam and very much not related to this.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Unless I have missed it in my lurking who owns S306 these days?
I suspect you will find PN still owns the loco, along with S301 and S307. I also suspect your likely to find a no 3rd party hire or sub-lease clause in whatever arrangements exist in relation to S306.

S306 was being used on the paper train for a while when PN had that contract, so its not been stored that long. Assuming it wasn't raided to keep any of PN's other locos going, i would imagine it was mostly compete - especially if they have been able to get it going so quick. Fluids change, battery change and probably not a lot else was needed.
Galron
S306 wasnt used. S307 was.
  ADB Junior Train Controller

Galron, S306 was refurbished (including cracked frame repairs) and used for about a month in 2007 before being withdrawn a/c the continuation of the drought. Apart from being hauled between storage sites, she hasn't turned a wheel since. I don't know if this means her innards don't need much work, or if 707 Ops have worked wonders in getting her going after she's been lying idle so long, but here's hoping they can get some good use out of her as a heritage unit. PN's S301 has a seized engine, and S310 was never refurbished by PN because she was too clapped out - SRHC wanted to have a go at doing her up in 2010, but didn't proceed with the project. So that leaves S307 - which last ran as a banker in SA in 2012 - waiting to be rescued.

Greensleeves, thanks for the reply. Is the Fruity running two rakes a seasonal thing, or does it depend on a bumper crop? P.S. thanks for your YT vids, I enjoy them regularly.

Cheers.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
So, one could assume the X class locos chopped up had better condition 567 engines in them (which MAY have been useable) than the seized or clapped out ones currently in S301/310.

Would it be fair to say ‘typical’? Yes I get the business case behind scrapping those X class locos. It therefore also stands to reason that PN should scrap/should have already scrapped S301/310 for exactly the same reasons.

Not doing so is either an insult, or a snigger at potential buyers now knowing they are totally reamed for parts.

Call it whatever you like.

Regards
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
So, one could assume the X class locos chopped up had better condition 567 engines in them (which MAY have been useable) than the seized or clapped out ones currently in S301/310.

Would it be fair to say ‘typical’? Yes I get the business case behind scrapping those X class locos. It therefore also stands to reason that PN should scrap/should have already scrapped S301/310 for exactly the same reasons.

Not doing so is either an insult, or a snigger at potential buyers now knowing they are totally reamed for parts.

Call it whatever you like.

Regards
davesvline

As far as I know the X's all had 645's, with X31 getting a 567 re-installed when it entered preservation.

S's can certainly get 645's though as S317's been running one for years.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

ISTR that PacNat swapped out the wheelsets between S306 and an XR class. Makes you wonder how many miles that 707 Operations will get out of it before they need new wheels. Still, if it’s good for a few thousand miles, it should do them for a season.
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Interesting about wheel sets hbedriver.  Must've been cooked wheel sets on all those X's PacNat chopped up then, if they're flogging the ones off an S??

Interesting Greensleeves re X class engines. I was of the belief the first series X were all 567's, and the later series were both 645's. As evidenced by the radiator changes. However, I wasn't aware S317 had a 645 donk dropped into it.

Would love to hear some video of it where that's apparent.

Regards

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