Surviving components of the D58 class locomotives

 
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
From looking at Australian Steam's article on the surviving parts of the 58 class locomotives (http://www.australiansteam.com/58%20Class.htm)  it seems that several parts survived, the 2 cabs welded together and the old tenders including what was apparently 5808's tender at Canberra. I wanted to ask if those parts still existed due to all the semi recent auctions and redevelopments at Canberra and Thirlmere respectively and that article not being updated since 2010

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  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

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Pretty sure the tender body is still in Canberra yard, you can see it at -35.319804, 149.152589 in Google maps. The building behind it in that 2005 photo was knocked down in the past year or so (asbestos problems), so the Google map imagery is recent. There used to be a sand tower made from a 57/58 class boiler barrel in the yard too, but haven't noticed it for many years (not that I've been looking).

The parts were never in ARHS-ACT's collection.
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
I think there was also a sand tower like that at Dubbo, might have been a 57 class boiler though
As I said, does anyone know what happened to the things like the two cabs, crank axles and cylinder and smokebox castings that were apparently at Thirlmere before the redevelopment
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

I think there was also a sand tower like that at Dubbo, might have been a 57 class boiler though
As I said, does anyone know what happened to the things like the two cabs, crank axles and cylinder and smokebox castings that were apparently at Thirlmere before the redevelopment
DCook
All still in existence and safely put away.
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Good
At least they didn't dispose of them like they did with those old tenders a couple of years back
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Also, on the topic of a very similar locomotive, 5711, is it true that most of the internal tubes of the boiler have been scrapped ?
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

Also, on the topic of a very similar locomotive, 5711, is it true that most of the internal tubes of the boiler have been scrapped ?
DCook

Any boiler tubes removed from 5711 would have needed replacement, they saw a lengthy period in service up to September 1961 or March 1962, the boiler was steamed at least once to allow it to run light engine from Goulburn to Enfield in May 1963 and it was then stored for something approaching 25 years before the insides of the boiler were looked at.  Boiler tubes are no big deal to replace, so whether the old ones still exist or not has no bearing on the future of 5711.
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Again on the topic of surviving parts, the answer is probably no to this, are there any parts at all left from the 34 class locomotives?
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner

Again on the topic of surviving parts, the answer is probably no to this, are there any parts at all left from the 34 class locomotives?
DCook
I know of one of the builders plate of 3402, I doubt there are any large items though.

Craig W
  studdo Locomotive Fireman

I think Craig is right. My recollection from a 1962 Roundhouse was that 3402 had been sold to Simms and before it was moved from Enfield the RTM tried to save it but Simms refused. The RTM also tried to negotiate Simms scrapping the boiler but giving back the rest of the loco so that it appeared externally intact but that also failed.
It's a pity that the RTM wasn't formed a few years earlier. If it had been, there's every chance we would have a preserved 34 class and round-top 36 (from memory, the last 2 round-tops were 3622 and 3663, were withdrawn in 1958 and at least one was not scrapped until early 1962). The RTM's attempts to save a 58 class were also unsuccessful. As the last NSWGR steam engine built in NSW (not 3830 as I have often seen stated) it would have been nice to preserve 5813.
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner

I think Craig is right. My recollection from a 1962 Roundhouse was that 3402 had been sold to Simms and before it was moved from Enfield the RTM tried to save it but Simms refused. The RTM also tried to negotiate Simms scrapping the boiler but giving back the rest of the loco so that it appeared externally intact but that also failed.
It's a pity that the RTM wasn't formed a few years earlier. If it had been, there's every chance we would have a preserved 34 class and round-top 36 (from memory, the last 2 round-tops were 3622 and 3663, were withdrawn in 1958 and at least one was not scrapped until early 1962). The RTM's attempts to save a 58 class were also unsuccessful. As the last NSWGR steam engine built in NSW (not 3830 as I have often seen stated) it would have been nice to preserve 5813.
studdo
A builders plate from 3402, 3622, 3663 and 5813 all survive in the one collection.

A small part of each exists at least

CraigW
  dm211060 Station Staff

I think Craig is right. My recollection from a 1962 Roundhouse was that 3402 had been sold to Simms and before it was moved from Enfield the RTM tried to save it but Simms refused. The RTM also tried to negotiate Simms scrapping the boiler but giving back the rest of the loco so that it appeared externally intact but that also failed.
It's a pity that the RTM wasn't formed a few years earlier. If it had been, there's every chance we would have a preserved 34 class and round-top 36 (from memory, the last 2 round-tops were 3622 and 3663, were withdrawn in 1958 and at least one was not scrapped until early 1962). The RTM's attempts to save a 58 class were also unsuccessful. As the last NSWGR steam engine built in NSW (not 3830 as I have often seen stated) it would have been nice to preserve 5813.
studdo
Appreciate your contributions Studdo. For reference its Sims not Simms - A.G.Sims, now Sims Metal Management, very big player globally in metal and electronics recycling.
  dm211060 Station Staff

I think Craig is right. My recollection from a 1962 Roundhouse was that 3402 had been sold to Simms and before it was moved from Enfield the RTM tried to save it but Simms refused. The RTM also tried to negotiate Simms scrapping the boiler but giving back the rest of the loco so that it appeared externally intact but that also failed.
It's a pity that the RTM wasn't formed a few years earlier. If it had been, there's every chance we would have a preserved 34 class and round-top 36 (from memory, the last 2 round-tops were 3622 and 3663, were withdrawn in 1958 and at least one was not scrapped until early 1962). The RTM's attempts to save a 58 class were also unsuccessful. As the last NSWGR steam engine built in NSW (not 3830 as I have often seen stated) it would have been nice to preserve 5813.
Appreciate your contributions Studdo. For reference its Sims not Simms - A.G.Sims, now Sims Metal Management, very big player globally in metal and electronics recycling.
  studdo Locomotive Fireman

I take your point dm, it will be Sims from now on.

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