Maryborough Rail Alliance seeks more core train services, community support

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 10 Feb 2020 12:19
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
This a great initiative by the people of Maryborough encouraging the use of existing services and better utilisation of current services.

With regard to the additional services sought there is a gap when you consider someone from Ballarat or Melbourne wanting to spend the day in Maryborough.  The group also highlight the need for another return service to benefit Maryborough residents.

There is scope for expansion and improvement for these services.

No mention of Dunnolly services in the article.

Maryborough Rail Alliance seeks more core train services, community support

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  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

This a great initiative by the people of Maryborough encouraging the use of existing services and better utilisation of current services.

With regard to the additional services sought there is a gap when you consider someone from Ballarat or Melbourne wanting to spend the day in Maryborough.  The group also highlight the need for another return service to benefit Maryborough residents.

There is scope for expansion and improvement for these services.

No mention of Dunnolly services in the article.

Maryborough Rail Alliance seeks more core train services, community support
bevans
The reality is that beyond Ballarat to Maryborough the patronage is the poorest of any country service, most trips less than a coach load.

In reality the serious shortfalls are firstly that an additional trip pair needs to be run on weekends with the 0916 Dn Wendouree split at Ballarat with half to Maryborough, and the 1813 Up Wendouree half originate Maryborough at 1710.

This would then allow day return trips to Maryborough on Saturdays & Sundays and Weekend return trips to Maryborough travelling down Friday afternoons and back on Sunday afternoons.

Next if they were VERY lucky they just might get a third return trip on Weekdays being a midday  Up & Down like Noonish up and  1316  Down as  extensions of Ballarat .

Tends to be a bit of an emotional argument as Maryborough has a host already of other trip choices to/from Melbourne via both Castlemaine and Ballarat as train/coach services.

Both places of similar size in Ararat and Maryborough, and Ararat people support their passenger rail services in much greater numbers .
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
...moreover the introduction of a bus service from Donald and St Arnaud to connect with the 07:08 from Maryborough and viceversa from the 18:41 arrival at Maryborough and again on the UP from Donald/St Arnaud and making the UP VLocity from Maryborough later than the present 14:44 would go a long way to increase connectivity for the potential market in those towns and could potentially open up St Arnaud and Donald as destinations in themselves...similar to what Ararat and Stawell are atm.


Mike.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
It would be helpful if MYKI could be used for Maryborough, thus (for the casual or weekend tripper) avoiding the need to buy a paper ticket prior to travel.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Why is multi not used to Maryborough today ?

Is myki used on buses in the area ?

Would the government so wider extending the rail services to the east and not to the north to get more people on the services.
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
You can use MYKI to go as far as:

  • Eaglehawk/Epsom
  • Seymour
  • Traralgon
  • Waurn Ponds
  • Wendouree

To travel beyond any of those places, including Maryborough, you must have a V/Line paper ticket.  Not sure why, but probably for some technical reason - maybe someone on here could explain it?  (If "explain" is the right word?)
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Did anyone actually read the article? It’s not a “great initiative by the people of Maryborough”, it’s that muppet Noel Laidlaw (of Rail Revival Alliance fame) trying to get his head in the local paper again.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Why is multi not used to Maryborough today ?

Is myki used on buses in the area ?

Would the government so wider extending the rail services to the east and not to the north to get more people on the services.
freightgate
Myki is not on the local buses either.
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
You can use MYKI to go as far as:

  • Eaglehawk/Epsom
  • Seymour
  • Traralgon
  • Waurn Ponds
  • Wendouree

To travel beyond any of those places, including Maryborough, you must have a V/Line paper ticket.  Not sure why, but probably for some technical reason - maybe someone on here could explain it?  (If "explain" is the right word?)
Lad_Porter
I believe it's primarily pecuniary. Initially the rollout was cancelled due to mounting costs, but I think (at least for rail) they were most of the way towards being able to successfully implement myki on all lines.

The remaining issue is the coach services - it would be a lot of money for the government to spend to then throw away a big chunk of revenue, as myki's zonal pricing model (as opposed to A-to-B distance) means many journeys currently undertaken by paper ticket would be far cheaper.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Did anyone actually read the article? It’s not a “great initiative by the people of Maryborough”, it’s that muppet Noel Laidlaw (of Rail Revival Alliance fame) trying to get his head in the local paper again.
potatoinmymouth

I think it is fair and reasonable PIMM that people can get together and look to how best utilise existing rail services and thence look to what other gaps need to be filled.

On another note, new signalling was installed in maryborough over the last 18 months meaning comms lines are good to the station.  Therefore to implement myki at Maryborough (should the passenger numbers justify) would mean a machine and some readers into the existing ethernet network.

Myki is quite convenient and probably needs considering for Maryborough.  

We talk about extending the Maryborough service to Dunolly being the policy of the opposition but really I am of the view it should be Inglewood and thence into Bendigo.  Electrify the Stony Point Line and take the sprinters for that service or extend the Vlocities.  That might drive more customers onto the system north of Maryborough and certainly Inglewood Station is in good condition as is the station at Bridgewater.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Did anyone actually read the article? It’s not a “great initiative by the people of Maryborough”, it’s that muppet Noel Laidlaw (of Rail Revival Alliance fame) trying to get his head in the local paper again.
potatoinmymouth
Gold! I didn't notice that and I DID read the article!

My take out from my read was that it is the classic Catch 22 but this time even the people advocating for the service admit that no one is using it! But give us more trains and we PROMISE that we will use it. Honest we will!

Low, low priority stuff this, improve connectivity by better timetabling existing services, yes, maybe spruce up the coach connections a bit, tick (although as I have said before VERY few people use the Maryborough Road Coach from CME) but there are already a heap of things that need to be done to fix up the existing very well patronised RFR lines without wasting $$$ on trains that no one will use.

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