VIC, AU - Serviceton Railway Station

 
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Any chance VicTrack could rent the building out as a restoration project for an entrepreneurial person to make it into an Air B'N'B? Seems to be successful strategy to help preserve other important railway stations like Hamley Bridge and Riverton (SA).
don_dunstan
Excellent idea don, the building is certainly big enough and any unruly guests can be locked in the jail cell, must have been a sight in it's heyday full of people from both directions.

Put an offer in and see what their response is..........Wink

BigShunter.

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  david harvey Junior Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale

Just to clarify . The Inter locking register that I have starts off at Serviceton at 15-5-1890 when a 40 lever apparatus was constructed  THIS WAS SERVICETON A BOX and lasted till 1984. There is no mention of Serviceton B Box or its being abolished which is  strange . Next entry is in 1914 .Makes me think there is bits missing as abolishing a signal box is a big event ,it should be here if it was there at all !.   Victorian Railways Weekly Notice Extracts. first entry for serviceton is on the 24-6-1898 weekly notice No50 of 1898, states that the Train staff and ticket will be abolished and electric staff will be provided to Kaniva.                                                              Victorian Railways Weekly Notice Extracts entry for Wolseley S.A Weekly nNotice Number 53 of 1953 states that the line from Wolseley to Mount Gambier has been converted to 5' 3" gauge]
Somersault, the publication of the Signalling Record Society of Victoria records, in an article titled "VICTORIAN SIGNAL Box CONTRACTS 1886 - 1901" states that the contracts for Serviceton East & West boxes (!) were gazetted on 22.04.1887 and the boxes opened on 15/05/1890.  But sadly, a signalling history of Serviceton isn't in the PDFs I have (27 volumes to 2004), and I am not going to read through 15 years of paper to find one.
duttonbay
With all this extra information  it has made more questions that it has answers. With the border originally being moved and its location undecided then having different rail gauges into Serviceton there seems to be  quite a  time span where infomation is a little bit light on . I suppose the info is out there some where  ,
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Any chance VicTrack could rent the building out as a restoration project for an entrepreneurial person to make it into an Air B'N'B? Seems to be successful strategy to help preserve other important railway stations like Hamley Bridge and Riverton (SA).
Excellent idea don, the building is certainly big enough and any unruly guests can be locked in the jail cell, must have been a sight in it's heyday full of people from both directions.

Put an offer in and see what their response is..........Wink

BigShunter.
BigShunter
You're way too cynical, it's worked in lots of other places throughout OZ, Mt Lofty was another one I'd forgotten about. The issue with Serviceton is that the trains belt through there so its probably not that wonderful for trainspotting while you're holidaying on the edge of the Mallee.
  david harvey Junior Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
Any chance VicTrack could rent the building out as a restoration project for an entrepreneurial person to make it into an Air B'N'B? Seems to be successful strategy to help preserve other important railway stations like Hamley Bridge and Riverton (SA).
Excellent idea don, the building is certainly big enough and any unruly guests can be locked in the jail cell, must have been a sight in it's heyday full of people from both directions.

Put an offer in and see what their response is..........Wink

BigShunter.
You're way too cynical, it's worked in lots of other places throughout OZ, Mt Lofty was another one I'd forgotten about. The issue with Serviceton is that the trains belt through there so its probably not that wonderful for trainspotting while you're holidaying on the edge of the Mallee.
don_dunstan
Dear Mr Dunstan With all this questioning about Serviceton . If you were to ask VicTrack if there is any chance  that  they could rent the building out as a restoration project for an entrepreneurial person to make it into an Air B'N'B?          I 'm sure Victrack might say "Restoration project ,,Arrr that costs lots of dollars .We have just redraw  the boundaries  It not our responsibility , Serviceton is in South Australia".
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

That would be a good way to right a historic wrong.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

That would be a good way to right a historic wrong.
justapassenger
What is the historic wrong?
  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
the change between 1890 and 1912 is so large across the yards hard to believe it was true given the dates.



1912

  allan Chief Commissioner

The change between 1890 and 1912 is so large across the yards hard to believe it was true given the dates.
8077
Most of that change is simplification, the consequence of taking up the 3'6.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

The change between 1890 and 1912 is so large across the yards hard to believe it was true given the dates.
Most of that change is simplification, the consequence of taking up the 3'6.
allan
The biggest change actually appears to be the simplification of the diagram, drawing it as one line for a track instead of having one for each rail.

If the two diagrams were drawn using the same conventions, it would actually appear that only a very small amount had changed.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The change between 1890 and 1912 is so large across the yards hard to believe it was true given the dates.
Most of that change is simplification, the consequence of taking up the 3'6.
allan
On close inspection the first diagram actually showed you which bits were dual gauge -
  david harvey Junior Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
The change between 1890 and 1912 is so large across the yards hard to believe it was true given the dates.
Most of that change is simplification, the consequence of taking up the 3'6.
allan
Addition information supplied from Wilfred Brooks Victorian Railways Interlocking Register  

Serviceton West Box SA end Constructed 15-5-1890 Provision of No 6 pattern interlocking apparatus  29 levers;I spare;  total 30                          28-5-1890 fixed ground lock installed . 12-6-1894  Apparatus abolished .  The laying of the narrow gauge may have had to do with the grain traffic that was emanating from south Eastern Sth Australian but looks like state boundaries got in the way of that traffic and it when to Adelaide.
  allan Chief Commissioner

Addition information supplied from Wilfred Brooks Victorian Railways Interlocking Register  

Serviceton West Box SA end Constructed 15-5-1890 Provision of No 6 pattern interlocking apparatus  29 levers;I spare;  total 30                          28-5-1890 fixed ground lock installed . 12-6-1894  Apparatus abolished .  The laying of the narrow gauge may have had to do with the grain traffic that was emanating from south Eastern Sth Australian but looks like state boundaries got in the way of that traffic and it when to Adelaide.
david harvey
If there was significant grain traffic then, and I doubt it, it's more likely that it went to the coast, and to Adelaide by sea.
  david harvey Junior Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
Addition information supplied from Wilfred Brooks Victorian Railways Interlocking Register  

Serviceton West Box SA end Constructed 15-5-1890 Provision of No 6 pattern interlocking apparatus  29 levers;I spare;  total 30                          28-5-1890 fixed ground lock installed . 12-6-1894  Apparatus abolished .  The laying of the narrow gauge may have had to do with the grain traffic that was emanating from south Eastern Sth Australian but looks like state boundaries got in the way of that traffic and it when to Adelaide.
If there was significant grain traffic then, and I doubt it, it's more likely that it went to the coast, and to Adelaide by sea.
allan
I am not doubting you allen, the grain could have gone by sea to Adelaide ,The narrow gauge NG  line has been gone from Serviceton for over 120 years. There is nobody alive to tell us actually why the NG was laid to Serviceton and what was to be gained from it ,considering the state of miss trust between the colonies at the time.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I posted earlier about the possibility that no narrow gauge trains ever made it to Serviceton, regardless of the track having been laid.
Has anyone actually found anything to suggest that NG trains did get there?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I posted earlier about the possibility that no narrow gauge trains ever made it to Serviceton, regardless of the track having been laid.
Has anyone actually found anything to suggest that NG trains did get there?
Valvegear
I think that it's perfectly plausible that no trains ran there. Or at least, no revenue trains - or perhaps no revenue from trains.
  david harvey Junior Train Controller

Location: Bairnsdale
I posted earlier about the possibility that no narrow gauge trains ever made it to Serviceton, regardless of the track having been laid.
Has anyone actually found anything to suggest that NG trains did get there?
I think that it's perfectly plausible that no trains ran there. Or at least, no revenue trains - or perhaps no revenue from trains.
duttonbay
All scenarios  are perfectly plausible ,Australia experienced a depression in 1890 through to the mid 1890's ,            there was a Maritime strike with no coastal shopping from 15th of August 1890 till November 1890 ,,                                                                                                     There may have been traffic during this period ,but I am using the "SWAG" method to come up with my theory .
  cmjl Station Master

Location: Adelaide
Any chance VicTrack could rent the building out as a restoration project for an entrepreneurial person to make it into an Air B'N'B? Seems to be successful strategy to help preserve other important railway stations like Hamley Bridge and Riverton (SA).
Excellent idea don, the building is certainly big enough and any unruly guests can be locked in the jail cell, must have been a sight in it's heyday full of people from both directions.

Put an offer in and see what their response is..........Wink
BigShunter

My wife and I dropped into Serviceton some 9 years ago having visited Bendigo (by road, alas) as she had never seen the station before.

We were fortunate enough to be given a guided tour of the station by members of the local progress society (or its ilk).  At the time they had done a lot of restoration work on it with help from Vic Track.  The station was available for hire for parties and events at that time too - not sure if they are still running the show but would hope that they are as they were locals looking after local heritage, and had a few good stories about the illicit provision of alcohol from the refreshment rooms when they used to operate.

My wife returned their generosity by looking over the collection of clothes that they had accumulated and were stored in the bedroom located on the top floor left hand side of the station - LHS standing trackside that is.  They had some genuine 19th century garments that they were unsure of the origins of and she was able to fill in some gaps for them with her garment knowledge.  The bedroom is unique as it is the only part of the station that is not on the ground floor - the station just looks like it is multi-storey across its length, with most of the second-storey just the high roofline of the booking hall.

Capping off the visit, we stood on the main platform as a freight train sped through at 100kph+.  Quite an experience, with only a lightweight wire fence separating us from the carriages, then as we were getting ready to leave the Adelaide-bound Overland pulled through so we chased it to Bordertown through Wolseley and past the historic fuel dump.

An amazing building that really forms the anchor for the township, with locals looking after it.  And to think it was not much more than half a lifetime ago that it was a fully working station.

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