Freight train hits car at Mallala, north of Adelaide

 
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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    Freight train hits car at Mallala, north of Adelaide

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      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    I expect that there will be an ATSB investigation into this crash, and I hope that it will be appropriately wide-ranging.

    The railway and Mallala Road are very close together for most of the 16km distance between Two Wells and Mallala, which creates a high risk of 'short stack' type collisions at the level crossings. There have been a number of collisions (and probably countless near misses that don't make the media but would hopefully be recorded diligently by the various rail operations) over the years.

    EDIT: just to be clear, I don't know how this collision will be categorised, but the multiple collisions in this area do deserve a full investigation.
      steam4ian Chief Commissioner

    I use the Mallala-Two Wells road frequently and will be using it again this week end. As Justapax says there are a number of LXs off that road which are accidents waiting to happen. A semi coming off a property or side road may be held when trying to enter the main road and be right in the path of a train

    The rail track here is generally higher than the road which could impede visibility, a risk exacerbated if turning right off the main road after waiting for oncoming traffic.
    The deceased couple were from Mallala so would be familiar with trains.

    A great loss to a country community.

    It is sad for all involved, the PN crew, the owners of the property and the emergency personnel.
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    I drove out that way with some mates in January, at the time we discussed if driving on those crossing roads appropriately whether you would have chance of sighting a train. We came to the conclusion that the answer was likely most often not.
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    Most of the crossings along there (though not all) lead to single homesteads as I believe was this one.  I've driven over most of them, in fact drove over several last Monday.

    All have STOP signs.

    Boom gates at all of them? You can pay for them then.

    All these roads intersect with the adjacent highway that sees frequent heavy vehicle movements. Many of these residential roads have no signs of any kind at the intersection with the highway.
      M636C Minister for Railways

    It is unfortunate that the recently repainted NR84 with the message that trains are safer than road trucks was leading this train.

    Peter
      BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

    Location: Maldon Junction
    It is unfortunate that the recently repainted NR84 with the message that trains are safer than road trucks was leading this train.

    Peter
    M636C
    Yep, that was one of my first thoughts after seeing the photo. Will be on the front cover of next months Truckin' Life!
      bingley hall Minister for Railways

    Location: Last train to Skaville
    So much for boom gates.........

    28/02/2020 05:42 6M22 near miss at King Road level crossing Bolivar


    05:42 The crew on 6M22 reported that as their train approached the King road level crossing at Bolivar (32.493km) in the Two Wells to Bolivar section, the crew advised a silver coloured Ford Territory drove around the already lowered Boom Gates when the level crossing was activated for the protection of their train

    No other vehicle details could be given.

    The crew advised that their train was travelling at approx. 80km/h and missed the vehicle by approximately 20 metres.
      Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

    Location: Moolap Station, Vic
    I expect that there will be an ATSB investigation into this crash, and I hope that it will be appropriately wide-ranging.

    justapassenger
    I wouldn't expect an ATSB investigation, considering the current frosty relationship between the S.A. Government and the ATSB.
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    I expect that there will be an ATSB investigation into this crash, and I hope that it will be appropriately wide-ranging.
    I wouldn't expect an ATSB investigation, considering the current frosty relationship between the S.A. Government and the ATSB.
    Jack Le Lievre
    If there is a frosty relationship between the Marshall Rabble and the ATSB (first I've heard of it) then insisting on a full investigation could be the perfect way for the ATSB to take a swipe at them. Especially if the report resulted in a bunch of recommendations that the aforementioned rabble might find inconvenient.
      theanimal Chief Commissioner

    I expect that there will be an ATSB investigation into this crash, and I hope that it will be appropriately wide-ranging.
    I wouldn't expect an ATSB investigation, considering the current frosty relationship between the S.A. Government and the ATSB.
    If there is a frosty relationship between the Marshall Rabble and the ATSB (first I've heard of it) then insisting on a full investigation could be the perfect way for the ATSB to take a swipe at them. Especially if the report resulted in a bunch of recommendations that the aforementioned rabble might find inconvenient.
    justapassenger
    i believe he may be referring to thw Whyalla run away that was NOT investigated by the ATSB?
      dthead Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    All this speculation on the familiarity and close to home stuff is a definate  no no as specualtion / cause blaming in this specific incident.  Off topic  posts will be deleted from now on. If you Want to talk about this sideline - new thread.

    New thread created and one post was deleted.

    Complacency at Level Crossings : https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2170972.htm#2170972
      james.au Minister for Railways

    Location: Sydney, NSW
    So much for boom gates.........

    28/02/2020 05:42 6M22 near miss at King Road level crossing Bolivar


    05:42 The crew on 6M22 reported that as their train approached the King road level crossing at Bolivar (32.493km) in the Two Wells to Bolivar section, the crew advised a silver coloured Ford Territory drove around the already lowered Boom Gates when the level crossing was activated for the protection of their train

    No other vehicle details could be given.

    The crew advised that their train was travelling at approx. 80km/h and missed the vehicle by approximately 20 metres.
    bingley hall
    Do trains have dashcams as standard?
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    I would presume that most trains had forward facing cameras in this era, fairly cheap technology these days and just brilliant for evidentiary purposes.
      Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

    Location: University of Adelaide SA
    Why was that post deleted, David? An explanation might be nice, And it contained NONE of the things that the ‘rules’ exclude.

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