Public transport in the aftermath of Covid-19

 
Topic moved from New South Wales by dthead on 04 Apr 2020 12:05
  Ethan1395 Train Controller

Location: An OSCar H Set
KEEP DEBATES ON WHETHER PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS CURRENTLY SAFE TO USE OR NOT TO A MINIMUM TO AVOID THE TOPIC BEING LOCKED

Most know that public transport patraonge has declined significantly during the Covid-19 pandemic, both because less people have jobs to commute to, more people are working at home, and others find safety in their cars (myself included).
But what is the outlook for public transport once the pandemic is over. when we have to rebuilt our way of life, I know I saw @djf01 feels public transport may not recover it's patronage for decades following this event, but I'm wondering if there might be other impacts such as:

- locally built transport vehicles after learning that it's not good to depend so heavily on other nations, both because we can't effectively close our borders, and to help with job creation to help recover fro such mass unemployment

- high demand for public transport in all areas following the mass unemployment as many may not be able to afford to pay their car registration and insurance

- high demand for improved and faster regional services (but not HSR) if Virgin collapses and leaves Qantas as the only airline free to gouge the market (as they already pretty much do)

- more opposition to automated metros and driver-only operation in the aftermath of the mass unemployment


What other impacts to public transport may we see in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic?

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Predict the stopping of privatisation of the system in ADELAIDE as travel will reduce for the time being due to business layoffs and government restrictions.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Predict the stopping of privatisation of the system in ADELAIDE as travel will reduce for the time being due to business layoffs and government restrictions.
freightgate
The arrangement for the private management of the government-owned system in Adelaide is that the government will continue to hold the fare revenue and set ticket prices, so I don't see any reason that COVID-19 should be any obstacle to the 1 July transfer of tram operations to the Torrens Connect operation.
  viaprojects Chief Train Controller






What other impacts to public transport may we see in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic?
Ethan1395


nice profits to the foreign companies, all up to the terms of the contracts .. but with the jobkeeepr payments etc, there would be a large cash flow from the government.

bus and air are mostly owned by overseas owners , Sydney toll roads just upped there charges .. rail is an unknown as they supply maybe a one off but repairs are local..
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE





What other impacts to public transport may we see in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic?

nice profits to the foreign companies, all up to the terms of the contracts .. but with the jobkeeepr payments etc, there would be a large cash flow from the government.

bus and air are mostly owned by overseas owners , Sydney toll roads just upped there charges .. rail is an unknown as they supply maybe a one off but repairs are local..
viaprojects
The tender for Adelaide Rail was open, no restrictions on potential interested parties. Its also a management contract, probably not alot different to the cleaning and other other contracts issues by Trans Adelaide.

Both major airlines are listed on the ASX and as far as profits go, well VA isn't reknown for its profitability.

Bus companies, not sure, not really interested.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The tender for Adelaide Rail was open, no restrictions on potential interested parties. Its also a management contract, probably not alot different to the cleaning and other other contracts issues by Trans Adelaide.
RTT_Rules
TransAdelaide (the arm's length company) hasn't existed since 2010, when the Rann government sold off TransAdelaide's remaining stake in a couple of bus operation joint ventures (the ALP is the party of privatisation) and brought the train/tram operations in house to be run directly by public servants.

Costs have been spiralling out of control since the ability to fire underperforming managers was lost. I endorse the future direction of state ownership and private management, as I'd much rather that a handful of fat middle managers get cut than services to the public.

The bus contracts in Adelaide have all been awarded for the contract period to start on 1 July this year, with the north-south contract area also to include the tram operations. They are all management contracts so they won't be negatively affected by COVID-19, in fact they are well positioned to benefit from any temporary suspension of services if they are agile enough to use it as an opportunity for preventative maintenance