delux Beginner

What happens to the tammies if they lose their car licence? Do they lose their job too?

Sponsored advertisement

  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
What happens to the tammies if they lose their car licence? Do they lose their job too?
delux
IF they can't be usefully employed elsewhere in the business for the period of licence suspension, then more than likely yes, they would.

I've worked with a few Driver's who've lost their licence before, and between a combination of being rostered to Terminal or Yard-only duties and leave taken, were able to see out their suspension without a need to drive on a public roadway, so it would really be on a case-by-case basis.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Well explained.  It's quite hard to get a job with public transport nowadays but once you get into it it's quite hard to lose it.  Anyway, trams have many more rules than cars and tram drivers see many more potential accidents than motorists who only drive for commuting.  It would be quite rare that a tram driver violates enough road rules to lose his / her car license.
  Matthew Train Controller

Well explained.  It's quite hard to get a job with public transport nowadays but once you get into it it's quite hard to lose it.  Anyway, trams have many more rules than cars and tram drivers see many more potential accidents than motorists who only drive for commuting.  It would be quite rare that a tram driver violates enough road rules to lose his / her car license.
route14

It's easy to lose your job with Yarra, just post something stupid on social media (that can be traced to you), critical of passengers or management. Smile

I don't believe there is a legal requirement for a tram driver to have a car license, it's just a 'local' rule by the operator, and one that came about after the police tried to book a tram driver for speeding and found he didn't have a drivers license.
Shortly after that, it was made a requirement to have a car license first. However, drivers already on the road without car licenses were allowed to stay on the road.
They are probably all retired or otherwise decided to leave the job by now.

Really a car drivers license shouldn't be required - all rules for the safe operation of the tram should be part of the tram drivers training. Really they will be asking that prospective drivers have car driving license so they can be called into work at unsociable hours, not because they think it makes people better tram drivers.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
I don't believe there is a legal requirement for a tram driver to have a car license, it's just a 'local' rule by the operator, and one that came about after the police tried to book a tram driver for speeding and found he didn't have a drivers license.
Shortly after that, it was made a requirement to have a car license first. However, drivers already on the road without car licenses were allowed to stay on the road.
Matthew
It wouldn't be for road rules, but for the same reason as heavy rail, if you need to get relieved somewhere out of course, or effect relief in an out-of-the-way spot yourself, you'll need to drive to get there. Or take a taxi which some companies offer depending on shift limits.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

It might be a local rule by the road authorities, not by the operator.  Tram drivers who joint before 1984 are not required to have a car license.  In fact, you can still join Yarra Trams with just a motorcycle license today.  At old Preston they used trams as transport cars for relief on route 11 (and passengers were allowed to travel on them).  When there was a tram shortage with the withdrawl of W class trams early this century, relief drivers were made to drive a company car or van to and from Thornbury instead.  However when the relief and/or the relieved driver is a senior driver without car license, or a driver on motorcycle license only, the transport car had to be a tram, and they tend to run them SPECIAL instead of with passengers.
    Social media is a novelty and what employees do on them tend to be quite sensitive.  Before their emergence there was a driver who did a lot of safety-related irrational things over a period of one decade.  The management later decided not to let him drive anymore, but still kept him employed as a CSE.  He was quite nice to me and we don't have personal conflicts, so I won't go into any details of the incidents.
  delux Beginner

Thanks for your answers everyone.
My son wants to become a tram driver but he is still quite young and pushes the limit sometimes with his licence.
Since it was stated that they usually lose their employment also, I’ll be encouraging him to get a different job until he matures a bit and respects his licence more.
Thanks.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Or maybe let him become a tram driver and if he treasures the job enough, he won't be pushing the limits with the car license.

Sponsored advertisement

Subscribers: KRviator

Display from: